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> And the state is doing poorly in meeting their needs. Utah ranks 48th in licensed child care centers per capita I imagine LDS people probably have stay at ho

> And the state is doing poorly in meeting their needs. Utah ranks 48th in licensed child care centers per capita I imagine LDS people probably have stay at home mothers at a vastly higher rate than the general population? If so then this stat says nothing about whether the state is meeting their needs.

dlcarrier 1y ago
Also, Utah was ranked #1, for quality of life, by US News: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings Something's definitely fishy here. Neither US News nor CNBC have very good methodology, but US News seems to have put a bit more work into finding metrics that directly represent quality of life, instead of just analyzing regulations, and assuming their effects on quality of life.
- pfannkuchen 1y ago
  It’s pretty weird that stories with glaring methodological flaws are just discussed by the public as if they are plausibly correct. I want a news source that I can trust to vet this sort of thing, but the closest I can get is full of crazed ideologues. But I also don’t want them to call out that it’s wrong. I just want them to pass the information on to me assuming I wouldn’t care to even know that this article exists, why would I care to read what the flaws are, etc
  - thunky 1y ago
    > I want a news source that I can trust to vet this sort of thing Then stay away from ranked lists like this. They are national enquirer level news. There's just no way to boil these topics down to a single number that has any value.
  - dlcarrier 1y ago
    I think putting up with the occasional crazed ideologies is worth it, if it means the rest of the articles acknowledge politicians are usually wrong, regardless of the party. That's why I read articles from the Reason Foundation (https://reason.com/latest/ https://reason.com/latest/), unless there's something up their alley, like politician legalizing hard drugs for sex workers, or something crazy like that, they have no issue with calling politicians out on their nonsense, regardless of the party. The next best option is finding a news source that at least has journalists with competing viewpoints. It does mean for every article calling out nonsense, you'll get another one supporting it, but at least they aren't ignoring any issues they find inconvenient. The best I've found for this is The Hill. (https://thehill.com/news/ https://thehill.com/news/) Sure, one of their contributors took CNBC at their word on the quality of life ranking (https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5402709-vermont-quality-life-ranking-cnbc/ https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5402709-vermont-qua...) with no thought put into whether analyzing policy is an effective metric of actual life quality, but they also publish articles from contributors that call out news sources for similar rhetoric.

dlcarrier 1y ago

Also, Utah was ranked #1, for quality of life, by US News: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings Something's definitely fishy here. Neither US News nor CNBC have very good methodology, but US News seems to have put a bit more work into finding metrics that directly represent quality of life, instead of just analyzing regulations, and assuming their effects on quality of life.

pfannkuchen 1y ago
It’s pretty weird that stories with glaring methodological flaws are just discussed by the public as if they are plausibly correct. I want a news source that I can trust to vet this sort of thing, but the closest I can get is full of crazed ideologues. But I also don’t want them to call out that it’s wrong. I just want them to pass the information on to me assuming I wouldn’t care to even know that this article exists, why would I care to read what the flaws are, etc
- thunky 1y ago
  > I want a news source that I can trust to vet this sort of thing Then stay away from ranked lists like this. They are national enquirer level news. There's just no way to boil these topics down to a single number that has any value.
- dlcarrier 1y ago
  I think putting up with the occasional crazed ideologies is worth it, if it means the rest of the articles acknowledge politicians are usually wrong, regardless of the party. That's why I read articles from the Reason Foundation (https://reason.com/latest/ https://reason.com/latest/), unless there's something up their alley, like politician legalizing hard drugs for sex workers, or something crazy like that, they have no issue with calling politicians out on their nonsense, regardless of the party. The next best option is finding a news source that at least has journalists with competing viewpoints. It does mean for every article calling out nonsense, you'll get another one supporting it, but at least they aren't ignoring any issues they find inconvenient. The best I've found for this is The Hill. (https://thehill.com/news/ https://thehill.com/news/) Sure, one of their contributors took CNBC at their word on the quality of life ranking (https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5402709-vermont-quality-life-ranking-cnbc/ https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5402709-vermont-qua...) with no thought put into whether analyzing policy is an effective metric of actual life quality, but they also publish articles from contributors that call out news sources for similar rhetoric.