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Because the grading rubric is designed against the values of the people there.

defrost 1y ago
You're saying we shouldn't judge those who enjoy higher levels of domestic violence? Just like in the rest of the country, violent crime in Oklahoma has been trending gradually lower in recent years. But at roughly 418 offenses per 100,000 people in 2023, the Sooner State’s violent crime rate is the 14th highest in the country, according to FBI statistics. Of particular concern is a sharp rise in domestic violence homicides, which State Attorney General Gentner Drummond recently called an “epidemic.”
- charcircuit 1y ago
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  - hobs 1y ago
    And we're saying that the obvious truth is it has little to do with abortion in the way they rank things - that kind of stuff is basically 10% of the rankings https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/11/how-we-are-choosing-americas-top-states-for-business-in-2025.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/11/how-we-are-choosing-americas... -
    - charcircuit 1y ago
      >that kind of stuff is basically 10% of the rankings https://www.cnbc.com/20 https://www.cnbc.com/20 This HN thread is specifically about the quality of life metric. The link you gave is not breaking down the 10.6% quality of life metric as far as I can tell.
  - bigbacaloa 1y ago
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selectodude 1y ago
Values such as access to food and being able to go to a doctor.
darth_avocado 1y ago
At some point if your values don’t align with healthcare, worker protections and childcare (which all of these states seem to be graded negatively on), it’s not the rubric.
brazzy 1y ago
They value violent crime?
hobs 1y ago
Economy Infrastructure Workforce Cost of Doing Business Business Friendliness Quality of Life - specifically With workers in short supply, companies are seeking to locate in states that can attract a broad array of talent. That makes quality of life an economic imperative. We rate the states on livability factors like per capita crime rates, environmental quality, and health care. The list goes on, but almost none of these are "against the values of the people there" unless their values are making less money and getting screwed over.
smcin 1y ago
Jumbling social, economic and environmental considerations [0] into one overall score seems like a terrible methodology, and politicized. Why not just rate them on three (or more) separate scores? If we did this on a country level, we'd similarly get inaccurate overall scores for UAE, Qatar and Singapore (or HK SAR or Macau). Also this methodology is very much for employers not people in general, since it weights infrastructure/power generation (16.2%), way more than cost-of-living/ affordability of housing (2.4%). [0]: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/11/how-we-are-choosing-americas-top-states-for-business-in-2025.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/11/how-we-are-choosing-americas...

You're saying we shouldn't judge those who enjoy higher levels of domestic violence? Just like in the rest of the country, violent crime in Oklahoma has been trending gradually lower in recent years. But at roughly 418 offenses per 100,000 people in 2023, the Sooner State’s violent crime rate is the 14th highest in the country, according to FBI statistics. Of particular concern is a sharp rise in domestic violence homicides, which State Attorney General Gentner Drummond recently called an “epidemic.”

charcircuit 1y ago
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- hobs 1y ago
  And we're saying that the obvious truth is it has little to do with abortion in the way they rank things - that kind of stuff is basically 10% of the rankings https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/11/how-we-are-choosing-americas-top-states-for-business-in-2025.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/11/how-we-are-choosing-americas... -
  - charcircuit 1y ago
    >that kind of stuff is basically 10% of the rankings https://www.cnbc.com/20 https://www.cnbc.com/20 This HN thread is specifically about the quality of life metric. The link you gave is not breaking down the 10.6% quality of life metric as far as I can tell.
- bigbacaloa 1y ago
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selectodude 1y ago

Values such as access to food and being able to go to a doctor.

darth_avocado 1y ago

At some point if your values don’t align with healthcare, worker protections and childcare (which all of these states seem to be graded negatively on), it’s not the rubric.

brazzy 1y ago

They value violent crime?

hobs 1y ago

Economy Infrastructure Workforce Cost of Doing Business Business Friendliness Quality of Life - specifically With workers in short supply, companies are seeking to locate in states that can attract a broad array of talent. That makes quality of life an economic imperative. We rate the states on livability factors like per capita crime rates, environmental quality, and health care. The list goes on, but almost none of these are "against the values of the people there" unless their values are making less money and getting screwed over.

smcin 1y ago

Jumbling social, economic and environmental considerations [0] into one overall score seems like a terrible methodology, and politicized. Why not just rate them on three (or more) separate scores? If we did this on a country level, we'd similarly get inaccurate overall scores for UAE, Qatar and Singapore (or HK SAR or Macau). Also this methodology is very much for employers not people in general, since it weights infrastructure/power generation (16.2%), way more than cost-of-living/ affordability of housing (2.4%). [0]: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/11/how-we-are-choosing-americas-top-states-for-business-in-2025.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/11/how-we-are-choosing-americas...