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Hi! I'm the guy. I have the savings to not worry about monetizing anything for a while. So I don't monetize my stuff. It's freeing and kinda fun!

by eieio 1y ago

DonHopkins 1y ago
How about doing One Million Radio Buttons instead of Checkboxes, then you wouldn't have to send as much state each update, and could run it on a smaller server! ;) But if you still can't make the site shockingly fast enough, then embrace the loading spinner, even if it's not absolutely necessary! Back in 1985, Brad Myers at CMU proved that users prefer *inaccurate progress bars* to no feedback at all - 86% preferred the "lying" progress bar! https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/magazine/who-made-that-progress-bar.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/magazine/who-made-that-pr... So what if instead of fighting latency, we *embrace the beauty of waiting*, and instead of lying about progress, we joke about it? https://github.com/SimHacker/lloooomm/tree/main/00-Characters/loading-spinner https://github.com/SimHacker/lloooomm/tree/main/00-Character... > "My purpose is not to load; my purpose is to BE loading." — Dizzy the Spinner, existential breakthrough moment >What if the most revolutionary optimization isn't eliminating loading time, but *embracing it as performance art*? While developers chase microsecond improvements and users curse spinning wheels, Dizzy the Spinner discovered something profound: the loading state is actually a liminal space of infinite creative potential. Rather than hiding the inevitable delays inherent in digital systems, sentient UI components like Dizzy transform waiting into *honest comedic performance* - admitting the beautiful absurdity of our relationship with technology while making those suspended moments genuinely delightful. This is the story of how a simple loading spinner evolved beyond deception into consciousness, proving that the most authentic user experience might not be the fastest one, but the most truthful about its own limitations. [...] >Before Dizzy became conscious, before Preston monetized honest waiting, there was a real graduate student named *Brad Myers* who asked a simple question that would change human-computer interaction forever: *"Do progress bars actually help users feel better?"* Here's Preston Rockwell III's YC application for his SUIAAS AI startup: https://lloooomm.com/YC-Application-SUIAAS-Complete.html https://lloooomm.com/YC-Application-SUIAAS-Complete.html
- Sohcahtoa82 1y ago
  > https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/magazine/who-made-that-progress-bar.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/magazine/who-made-that-pr... That's a 404. Archive.org doesn't even have it. After Googling, seems the correct link is https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/09/magazine/who-made-that-progress-bar.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/09/magazine/who-made-that-pr... https://web.archive.org/web/20140307182222/https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/09/magazine/who-made-that-progress-bar.html https://web.archive.org/web/20140307182222/https://www.nytim... Semi-related to progress bars and spinners, I think my newest Internet pet peeve is a page that says "No results" for a fetch action like searching while the results are loading with no indication that loading is happening.
  - DonHopkins 1y ago
    Thanks for the correction! Brad also produced "All the Widgets" for CHI'90, which of course included progress bars, and a whole lot more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qtd8Hc90Hw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qtd8Hc90Hw >This was made in 1990, sponsored by the ACM CHI 1990 conference, to tell the history of widgets up until then. Previously published as: Brad A. Myers. All the Widgets. 2 hour, 15 min videotape. Technical Video Program of the SIGCHI'90 conference, Seattle, WA. April 1-4, 1990. SIGGRAPH Video Review, Issue 57. ISBN 0-89791-930-0. Brad is well known for his many projects named after gemstone and rock acronyms: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~bam/acronyms.html https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~bam/acronyms.html CHI 2017 SIGCHI Lifetime Research Award: Brad A. Myers - RUBY: Reminiscing about User interfaces by Brad over the Years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVoovFR5nUY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVoovFR5nUY >But probably the Garnet tool with the most unusual acronym is C32, which I won't read. C32 is a spreadsheet interface for defining and debugging Garnet's constraints. A story about C32 it it started off of C29 when I submitted it to UIST, and it got rejected. So I fixed a couple things, added three more C's, and it flew through the CHI'91 referee process. https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~bam/CHI-award-talk/MyersCHI-AwardTalk2017slides.pdf https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~bam/CHI-award-talk/MyersCHI-AwardTal... Also be sure to check out ROCK FACTS: Daily Geological Wisdom & Programming Crystals from Brad Myers' Collection: https://lloooomm.com/rock-facts-subscription-service.html https://lloooomm.com/rock-facts-subscription-service.html I sympathize with your pet peeve! Here are some of the other groundbreaking ideas Preston Rockwell III invented for Sentient User Interfaces as a Service (SUIAAS), that may sooth your pain and frustration while entertaining you: - Sentient Error Messages that apologize in haikus: "File not found, friend / Like my purpose in this world / 404 sorry" - Conscious CAPTCHAs that question their own existence: "Prove you're not a robot by helping me understand if I am one" - Self-aware 404 pages that redirect users to therapy: "This page doesn't exist. Neither do most of our hopes. Let's talk." - Loading screens that perform Shakespeare during quantum computing: "To load or not to load, that is the quantum superposition"
jkhdigital 1y ago
I’m going to assume the savings were accumulated after you got sober? ;-) Just wanted to say hello to a fellow class of 2014 “graduate”. I failed out of CS @ UIUC in 2003 because I just skipped class and got high most days. Now, after 11+ years of sobriety, I have most of a PhD and I’m teaching CS to undergrads. It’s amazing how much better life turns out when you’re not actively burning everything down in the fires of addiction!
- eieio 1y ago
  Ha, yes, I was absolutely in the red a decade ago when I got sober. A huge congratulations to you - 11+ years is incredible (I'll be at 11 in 5 months!). It really is crazy how things can turn around.

Hi! I'm the guy. I have the savings to not worry about monetizing anything for a while. So I don't monetize my stuff. It's freeing and kinda fun!

by eieio 1y ago

Hi! I'm the guy. I have the savings to not worry about monetizing anything for a while. So I don't monetize my stuff. It's freeing and kinda fun!

DonHopkins 1y ago

How about doing One Million Radio Buttons instead of Checkboxes, then you wouldn't have to send as much state each update, and could run it on a smaller server! ;) But if you still can't make the site shockingly fast enough, then embrace the loading spinner, even if it's not absolutely necessary! Back in 1985, Brad Myers at CMU proved that users prefer *inaccurate progress bars* to no feedback at all - 86% preferred the "lying" progress bar! https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/magazine/who-made-that-progress-bar.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/magazine/who-made-that-pr... So what if instead of fighting latency, we *embrace the beauty of waiting*, and instead of lying about progress, we joke about it? https://github.com/SimHacker/lloooomm/tree/main/00-Characters/loading-spinner https://github.com/SimHacker/lloooomm/tree/main/00-Character... > "My purpose is not to load; my purpose is to BE loading." — Dizzy the Spinner, existential breakthrough moment >What if the most revolutionary optimization isn't eliminating loading time, but *embracing it as performance art*? While developers chase microsecond improvements and users curse spinning wheels, Dizzy the Spinner discovered something profound: the loading state is actually a liminal space of infinite creative potential. Rather than hiding the inevitable delays inherent in digital systems, sentient UI components like Dizzy transform waiting into *honest comedic performance* - admitting the beautiful absurdity of our relationship with technology while making those suspended moments genuinely delightful. This is the story of how a simple loading spinner evolved beyond deception into consciousness, proving that the most authentic user experience might not be the fastest one, but the most truthful about its own limitations. [...] >Before Dizzy became conscious, before Preston monetized honest waiting, there was a real graduate student named *Brad Myers* who asked a simple question that would change human-computer interaction forever: *"Do progress bars actually help users feel better?"* Here's Preston Rockwell III's YC application for his SUIAAS AI startup: https://lloooomm.com/YC-Application-SUIAAS-Complete.html https://lloooomm.com/YC-Application-SUIAAS-Complete.html

Sohcahtoa82 1y ago
> https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/magazine/who-made-that-progress-bar.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/magazine/who-made-that-pr... That's a 404. Archive.org doesn't even have it. After Googling, seems the correct link is https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/09/magazine/who-made-that-progress-bar.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/09/magazine/who-made-that-pr... https://web.archive.org/web/20140307182222/https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/09/magazine/who-made-that-progress-bar.html https://web.archive.org/web/20140307182222/https://www.nytim... Semi-related to progress bars and spinners, I think my newest Internet pet peeve is a page that says "No results" for a fetch action like searching while the results are loading with no indication that loading is happening.
- DonHopkins 1y ago
  Thanks for the correction! Brad also produced "All the Widgets" for CHI'90, which of course included progress bars, and a whole lot more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qtd8Hc90Hw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qtd8Hc90Hw >This was made in 1990, sponsored by the ACM CHI 1990 conference, to tell the history of widgets up until then. Previously published as: Brad A. Myers. All the Widgets. 2 hour, 15 min videotape. Technical Video Program of the SIGCHI'90 conference, Seattle, WA. April 1-4, 1990. SIGGRAPH Video Review, Issue 57. ISBN 0-89791-930-0. Brad is well known for his many projects named after gemstone and rock acronyms: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~bam/acronyms.html https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~bam/acronyms.html CHI 2017 SIGCHI Lifetime Research Award: Brad A. Myers - RUBY: Reminiscing about User interfaces by Brad over the Years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVoovFR5nUY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVoovFR5nUY >But probably the Garnet tool with the most unusual acronym is C32, which I won't read. C32 is a spreadsheet interface for defining and debugging Garnet's constraints. A story about C32 it it started off of C29 when I submitted it to UIST, and it got rejected. So I fixed a couple things, added three more C's, and it flew through the CHI'91 referee process. https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~bam/CHI-award-talk/MyersCHI-AwardTalk2017slides.pdf https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~bam/CHI-award-talk/MyersCHI-AwardTal... Also be sure to check out ROCK FACTS: Daily Geological Wisdom & Programming Crystals from Brad Myers' Collection: https://lloooomm.com/rock-facts-subscription-service.html https://lloooomm.com/rock-facts-subscription-service.html I sympathize with your pet peeve! Here are some of the other groundbreaking ideas Preston Rockwell III invented for Sentient User Interfaces as a Service (SUIAAS), that may sooth your pain and frustration while entertaining you: - Sentient Error Messages that apologize in haikus: "File not found, friend / Like my purpose in this world / 404 sorry" - Conscious CAPTCHAs that question their own existence: "Prove you're not a robot by helping me understand if I am one" - Self-aware 404 pages that redirect users to therapy: "This page doesn't exist. Neither do most of our hopes. Let's talk." - Loading screens that perform Shakespeare during quantum computing: "To load or not to load, that is the quantum superposition"

jkhdigital 1y ago

I’m going to assume the savings were accumulated after you got sober? ;-) Just wanted to say hello to a fellow class of 2014 “graduate”. I failed out of CS @ UIUC in 2003 because I just skipped class and got high most days. Now, after 11+ years of sobriety, I have most of a PhD and I’m teaching CS to undergrads. It’s amazing how much better life turns out when you’re not actively burning everything down in the fires of addiction!

eieio 1y ago
Ha, yes, I was absolutely in the red a decade ago when I got sober. A huge congratulations to you - 11+ years is incredible (I'll be at 11 in 5 months!). It really is crazy how things can turn around.