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<quote> Heroku is Just Unix At its core, Heroku is just a simple unix platform; specifically, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. </quote> I just threw up a little

rbanffy 14y ago
Why?
- orthecreedence 14y ago
  I'm going to guess it's because Ubuntu was called "unix" (which actually raised my eyebrow as well). Although similar, unix != linux, and Ubuntu especially != unix, as opposed to a distro like Slackware, which is more or less unix with a linux kernel slapped in. I got what the author meant though, and it's not that big a deal.
  - rbanffy 14y ago
    There is "Unix", an operating system originated at AT&T and "unix", a generic name that usually refers to a family of operating systems that are based more or less on the same ideas. Linux is a lot closer to AT&T's ideas of Unix than other certified Unixes like OSX and AIX. Linux is not Unix, but it certainly is a unix. When I really want to annoy my BSD friends, I call it a "Linux-like" operating system. It never fails.
fdr 14y ago
I saw someone else have a bad reaction to this statement, but I might be to blame for this. See: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4062983 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4062983 But let me try to frame it more carefully: at the time (and maybe still) a lot of providers expect you to use special APIs endemic to their platform, and you can't get the real-deal implementation or a drop-in replacement if you want to model the production environment more closely or move off the platform. Even if you get the real-deal implementation, running it may be infeasibly hairy. Heroku very assiduously tries to avoid this, and there is a downside: we compromise with the problems in existing software that people like to use as-is, and to fix those problems we have to somehow get that software fixed, too.

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<quote> Heroku is Just Unix At its core, Heroku is just a simple unix platform; specifically, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. </quote> I just threw up a little

by liveoneggs 14y ago

rbanffy 14y ago
Why?
- orthecreedence 14y ago
  I'm going to guess it's because Ubuntu was called "unix" (which actually raised my eyebrow as well). Although similar, unix != linux, and Ubuntu especially != unix, as opposed to a distro like Slackware, which is more or less unix with a linux kernel slapped in. I got what the author meant though, and it's not that big a deal.
  - rbanffy 14y ago
    There is "Unix", an operating system originated at AT&T and "unix", a generic name that usually refers to a family of operating systems that are based more or less on the same ideas. Linux is a lot closer to AT&T's ideas of Unix than other certified Unixes like OSX and AIX. Linux is not Unix, but it certainly is a unix. When I really want to annoy my BSD friends, I call it a "Linux-like" operating system. It never fails.
fdr 14y ago
I saw someone else have a bad reaction to this statement, but I might be to blame for this. See: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4062983 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4062983 But let me try to frame it more carefully: at the time (and maybe still) a lot of providers expect you to use special APIs endemic to their platform, and you can't get the real-deal implementation or a drop-in replacement if you want to model the production environment more closely or move off the platform. Even if you get the real-deal implementation, running it may be infeasibly hairy. Heroku very assiduously tries to avoid this, and there is a downside: we compromise with the problems in existing software that people like to use as-is, and to fix those problems we have to somehow get that software fixed, too.