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Not convinced that this is down to women. In my personal experience women want to have kids wayyyy more than men it is the men who are refusing them or want to
by KaoruAoiShiho 1y ago
Not convinced that this is down to women. In my personal experience women want to have kids wayyyy more than men it is the men who are refusing them or want to delay. In fact I would say this is basically everyone I know, the men are the ones being anti-natal while women want kids way earlier.
- pantalaimon 1y agoI think it depends on age. Men in their 20ies don't want kids because they still want to enjoy life without responsibility, but by the time they are in their 30ies they are ready to settle down and the idea of having a family becomes more and more appealing.
- KaoruAoiShiho 1y agoYes and that is too late and in the meantime have wasted 10 fertile years of 2 or 3 female partners.
- lisbbb 1y agoOh good god! Get over yourself! Those 2-3 female partners were willing participants, not being led on. If you believe they were being led on, then you are not saying very much about women and their level of intelligence! I don't feel as though I wasted any of the "fertile years" of my female partners who ended up not wanting to marry me! I had a couple of different long-term relationships in my 20s before I found a woman to marry and start a family with, which we did just fine in our 30s despite having two miscarriages in between kid #1 and kid #2.
- potato3732842 1y agoIf 20-something women wanted kids at that age they could marry 30-something men who want to settle down if they were suitable marriage/mother material in the eyes of those men.
- angmarsbane 1y agoSame boat. I know a number of women who couldn't find partners who both wanted kids and could pay half the bills so those women are now freezing their eggs or pursuing single motherhood by choice. Of the woman I know who are married, all of them had to talk their husbands into the first child and second child.
- itake 1y agoMy sister is one of these cases. My take is the bar for marriage / life partner is really really high in modern relationships. Women aren't able to attract the mates they want, so they would rather try to do it on their own or wait, than "settle" for a guy that isn't meeting their standards. The female dating coach Logan Ury wrote a book called "How not to die alone" which discusses this issue.
- slaw 1y ago> Women aren't able to attract the mates they want Women set expectation bar so high, only top 5% of men meet.
- itake 1y agoIn 20 years, with more women than men going to college, a lot of women aren’t going to find partners if they want someone that matched or exceeds their education level.
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- znpy 1y ago> In fact I would say this is basically everyone I know, the men are the ones being anti-natal while women want kids way earlier. This does not make sense. It's not men taking birth-control pills, plan-b and having abortions.
- arvinsim 1y agoEven if that is true, I still observe that gender norms are strongly adhered to. Anecdotally, I see many women who want to settle down but never take the initiative to ask a guy out.