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> The majority of music communication is not in lyrics, but in sound and tone of voice. That could maybe be argued for music which is released as music. This s
by Doxin 1y ago
> The majority of music communication is not in lyrics, but in sound and tone of voice.
That could maybe be argued for music which is released as music. This song isn't stand-alone, it's part of a musical. You can't take it out of its context and then complain it doesn't make sense.
> This song makes you, unambiguously, feel good.
Maybe it makes you feel good. It makes me feel conflicted.
> From lyrics alone, I would assume the protagonist is voluntarily part of abusive relationships.
I mean that's part of the point. Angel thinks they themselves are to blame for the situation they find themselves in. Which isn't true of course, but that's how it goes with abuse.
> I did not found sexual assault visuals
Well look closer then. Angels whole thing is that he puts on an act of liking all the shit happening to him. But it's pretty clearly an act in the video.
> They are about wanting this bad thing to happen, despite it being bad thing.
Part of angel DOES want some of those things to happen. There's clearly an element of glamour he likes about it. That doesn't make the relationship any less abusive.
> I do not mean it as kind of major criticism or the song ... but it is kids gloves song about abuse and feelings that make someone stay in such relationship.
I agree it's a song about why someone would stay in an abusive relationship. That doesn't mean it's glamorizing abusive relationships though. I don't really care if people dislike the song, it's parsing the song as somehow being pro-abuse where I get annoyed, because it clearly isn't. It's a realistic portrayal of how some abusive relationships work. Obviously people in them feel like they want or need to stay in them or... they wouldn't.
- watwut 1y agoI did not said the song makes no sense. It makes perfect sense. And it is in fact released as a standalone song. > Well look closer then As I said, I did not found sexual assault visuals. Only abstract abstract video with words and pink colors. > There's clearly an element of glamour he likes about it. Sure, but there is nothing about song itself that would make one feel bad about it. Or even be aware it is sexual assault what is going on. You have to bring that out from somewhere else. > It's a realistic portrayal of how some abusive relationships work. Obviously people in them feel like they want or need to stay in them or... they wouldn't. I do not think it is realistic portrayal of such relationship. It is glamorous portrayal. It makes you feel the harmful part feels good and is worth it. Realistic portrayal would had more pain in it, it would had mix of negative emotions in it. It would show dark side and pain, not just rational realization "this is harmful but I want it". People in abusive relationship do not feel just the addiction and choice part. They do have fair amount of suffering, fear, feeling like they cant mixed in. They do not feel it is sweet. This song feels sweet.
- Doxin 1y agoIf you can't see the negatives and the dark sides in that music video I dunno what to tell you. To me they are clearly and obviously there.