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these are champions of "if your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to hide"; the carve-out; [until it applies to me], is usually not mentioned

by rolph 1y ago

FirmwareBurner 1y ago
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- rolph 1y ago
  all they have to do is stop breaking the law.
  - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
    So why don't illegal immigrants stop breaking the law, to not need ICE? anymore
    - xracy 1y ago
      This is just so far from the correct question that it's not worth trying to have a conversation about this. Policing doesn't make crime go away. More cops does not result in less crime. You fix crime by addressing what caused people to break the law in the first place. But no one who supports this administration understands that, and so we will not be fixing any of the country's problems anytime soon.
  - kcplate 1y ago
    Wait…exactly who is breaking the law again? And exactly which law they are breaking?
- xracy 1y ago
  "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." Show me what legal recourse people have to get their needs met, and I will show you how those avenues are being clamped down on by the very same people concerned about their safety.
  - deleted 1y ago
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  - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
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- acdha 1y ago
  > from the violent protestors and gangs Where is this happening, and does data show this at a level unprecedented in American history? We’ve prosecuted people ranging from colonial British loyalists to the Klan to the Mob, street gangs and drug cartels, militias, al-Qaeda / ISIS types, and the January 6th insurrectionists and government lawyers haven’t needed to hide their identities. The idea that these lawyers have such an unprecedented grave risk really needs some serious evidence to be taken seriously because the potential for abuse is huge.
  - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
    Bad faith apples to oranges comparison. Different times back then, law enforcement had a lot more power to retaliate to violence against them. What would have happened to you if you threw rocks at cops in the 1950s? So of course today you need to hide your identity when you're being assaulted like this by deranged protesters who think they are on the right side of history, but the law enforcement isn't allowed to retaliate in defense to protect you or themselves without being called Nazis or fascists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVYe6537FWo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVYe6537FWo
    - acdha 1y ago
      Speaking of bad faith, how is an immigration court like a paramilitary raid? We do see judges getting death threats but the ones we know about have largely been from Trump supporters angry about judges staying his orders.
      - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
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- pupppet 1y ago
  Do you support the police wearing masks?

these are champions of "if your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to hide"; the carve-out; [until it applies to me], is usually not mentioned

by rolph 1y ago

these are champions of "if your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to hide"; the carve-out; [until it applies to me], is usually not mentioned

FirmwareBurner 1y ago

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rolph 1y ago
all they have to do is stop breaking the law.
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago
  So why don't illegal immigrants stop breaking the law, to not need ICE? anymore
  - xracy 1y ago
    This is just so far from the correct question that it's not worth trying to have a conversation about this. Policing doesn't make crime go away. More cops does not result in less crime. You fix crime by addressing what caused people to break the law in the first place. But no one who supports this administration understands that, and so we will not be fixing any of the country's problems anytime soon.
- kcplate 1y ago
  Wait…exactly who is breaking the law again? And exactly which law they are breaking?
xracy 1y ago
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." Show me what legal recourse people have to get their needs met, and I will show you how those avenues are being clamped down on by the very same people concerned about their safety.
- deleted 1y ago
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- FirmwareBurner 1y ago
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acdha 1y ago
> from the violent protestors and gangs Where is this happening, and does data show this at a level unprecedented in American history? We’ve prosecuted people ranging from colonial British loyalists to the Klan to the Mob, street gangs and drug cartels, militias, al-Qaeda / ISIS types, and the January 6th insurrectionists and government lawyers haven’t needed to hide their identities. The idea that these lawyers have such an unprecedented grave risk really needs some serious evidence to be taken seriously because the potential for abuse is huge.
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago
  Bad faith apples to oranges comparison. Different times back then, law enforcement had a lot more power to retaliate to violence against them. What would have happened to you if you threw rocks at cops in the 1950s? So of course today you need to hide your identity when you're being assaulted like this by deranged protesters who think they are on the right side of history, but the law enforcement isn't allowed to retaliate in defense to protect you or themselves without being called Nazis or fascists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVYe6537FWo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVYe6537FWo
  - acdha 1y ago
    Speaking of bad faith, how is an immigration court like a paramilitary raid? We do see judges getting death threats but the ones we know about have largely been from Trump supporters angry about judges staying his orders.
    - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
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pupppet 1y ago
Do you support the police wearing masks?