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Neal Stephenson has a recent post that covers some of this. Also links to teachers talking about many students just putting all their work into chatgpt and turn

Neal Stephenson has a recent post that covers some of this. Also links to teachers talking about many students just putting all their work into chatgpt and turning it in. https://nealstephenson.substack.com/p/emerson-ai-and-the-force https://nealstephenson.substack.com/p/emerson-ai-and-the-for...

frozenseven 1y ago
He links to Reddit, a site where most people are aggressively against AI. So, not necessarily a representative slice of reality.
- johnnyanmac 1y ago
  Given recent studies, that does seem to reflect reality. Trust in AI has been waning for 2 years now.
  - frozenseven 1y ago
    By what relevant metric? The userbase has grown by an order of magnitude over the past few years. Models have gotten noticeably smarter and see more use across a variety of fields and contexts.
    - JTbane 1y ago
      > Models have gotten noticeably smarter and see more use across a variety of fields and contexts. Is that really true? The papers I've read seem to indicate the hallucination rate is getting higher.
      - frozenseven 1y ago
        Models from a few years ago are comparatively dumb. Basically useless when it comes to performing tasks you'd give to o3 or Gemini 2.5 Pro. Even smaller reasoning models can do things that would've been impossible in 2023.
- genghisjahn 1y ago
  He links to a post about a teacher’s expertise with students using AI. The fact that it’s on Reddit is irrelevant.
  - frozenseven 1y ago
    If you're going to champion something that comes from a place of extreme political bias, you could at least acknowledge it.
    - Capricorn2481 1y ago
      This is a baffling response. The politics are completely irrelevant to this topic. Pretty much every American is distrustful of big tech and is completely unaware of what the current administration has conceded to AI companies, with larger scandals taking the spotlight, so there hasn't been a chance for one party or the other to rally around a talking point with AI. People don't like AI because its impact on the internet is filling it with garbage, not because of tribalism.
      - frozenseven 1y ago
        >This is a baffling response. Likewise. 95+% of the time I see a response like this, it's from one particular side of the political aisle. You know the one. Politics has everything to do with this. >what the current administration has conceded to AI companies lol, I unironically think that they're not lax enough when it comes to AI.
        intended 1y ago
        Based on your response and logic - no dem should read stuff written by repub voters, or if they do read it, dismiss their account because it cannot be … what? Not sure how we get to dismissing the teacher subreddit, to be honest.
        frozenseven 1y ago
- Sharlin 1y ago
  I’d like to see a statistically sound source for that claim. Given how many non-nerds there are on Reddit these days, it’s unlikely that there’s any particular strong bias in any direction compared to any similar demographic.

frozenseven 1y ago

He links to Reddit, a site where most people are aggressively against AI. So, not necessarily a representative slice of reality.

johnnyanmac 1y ago
Given recent studies, that does seem to reflect reality. Trust in AI has been waning for 2 years now.
- frozenseven 1y ago
  By what relevant metric? The userbase has grown by an order of magnitude over the past few years. Models have gotten noticeably smarter and see more use across a variety of fields and contexts.
  - JTbane 1y ago
    > Models have gotten noticeably smarter and see more use across a variety of fields and contexts. Is that really true? The papers I've read seem to indicate the hallucination rate is getting higher.
    - frozenseven 1y ago
      Models from a few years ago are comparatively dumb. Basically useless when it comes to performing tasks you'd give to o3 or Gemini 2.5 Pro. Even smaller reasoning models can do things that would've been impossible in 2023.
genghisjahn 1y ago
He links to a post about a teacher’s expertise with students using AI. The fact that it’s on Reddit is irrelevant.
- frozenseven 1y ago
  If you're going to champion something that comes from a place of extreme political bias, you could at least acknowledge it.
  - Capricorn2481 1y ago
    This is a baffling response. The politics are completely irrelevant to this topic. Pretty much every American is distrustful of big tech and is completely unaware of what the current administration has conceded to AI companies, with larger scandals taking the spotlight, so there hasn't been a chance for one party or the other to rally around a talking point with AI. People don't like AI because its impact on the internet is filling it with garbage, not because of tribalism.
    - frozenseven 1y ago
      >This is a baffling response. Likewise. 95+% of the time I see a response like this, it's from one particular side of the political aisle. You know the one. Politics has everything to do with this. >what the current administration has conceded to AI companies lol, I unironically think that they're not lax enough when it comes to AI.
      - intended 1y ago
        Based on your response and logic - no dem should read stuff written by repub voters, or if they do read it, dismiss their account because it cannot be … what? Not sure how we get to dismissing the teacher subreddit, to be honest.
        frozenseven 1y ago
Sharlin 1y ago
I’d like to see a statistically sound source for that claim. Given how many non-nerds there are on Reddit these days, it’s unlikely that there’s any particular strong bias in any direction compared to any similar demographic.