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We certainly can't have a stable society with a rapidly shrinking population.
by bryanlarsen 1y ago
We certainly can't have a stable society with a rapidly shrinking population.
- ceejayoz 1y agoIsn't that the main promise of AI and automation and whatnot?
- downrightmike 1y agoNo AI strips skills from people for easy and endless access for the rich.
- Qem 1y agoWe are promised flying cars since the 50s as well.
- ceejayoz 1y agoSmartphones and the Internet are at least as sci-fi as flying cars.
- antisthenes 1y agoYou can't make this statement in a vacuum. You need to know what the current population is, what the carrying capacity is, etc etc. Generic statements sound and feel good, but are completely useless.
- bryanlarsen 1y agoSure you can. A rapidly declining population is rapidly changing. Ergo it's not stable.
- analognoise 1y agoWe can’t have billionaires with their own private space programs and 5 families with more wealth than 50% of America, and have a stable society. This is just the natural and obvious outcome of what we’re already dealing with. The fertility crisis is just our refusal to deal appropriately with the ultra rich and the collapse of our institutions.
- Henchman21 1y agoI continue to need someone to ELI5 precisely why we shouldn’t kill those 5 families and redistribute their shit.
- oaththrowaway 1y agoHench from HF?
- Henchman21 1y agoDon't know what that means, sorry
- oaththrowaway 1y agoAhh sorry, someone with your same username used to post on Hockey's Future message board
- BobaFloutist 1y agoWho's we? If we had a consensus that they shouldn't be allowed to have that stuff it would be easy enough to vote it away from them without killing anyone. Seeing as we don't have a consensus, "we" are going to face a lot of opposition to the killing, let alone the redistribution.
- mensetmanusman 1y agoWealth isn’t zero sum, someone could write some code that increases the global wealth by $1 trillion from nothing.
- ozgrakkurt 1y agoIt is not zero sum but the number seems really low
- UncleMeat 1y agoThe population isn't even shrinking, let alone shrinking rapidly.
- tjwebbnorfolk 1y agoOnly because of immigration. But eventually you run out of people to import...
- UncleMeat 1y agoWe live in a global society.
- tjwebbnorfolk 1y agoMaybe you do. Most of us live as humans do: in tribes, protective of our own space.
- Kittensmittens3 1y agoPeople like you and I still want to, but in western society we are forced to live in a global society whether we want to or not.
- BobaFloutist 1y agoWell, it sounds you like you do have a problem, then.
- Henchman21 1y agoThe population is rapidly shrinking because our “elites” only sow the seeds of despair. They only act in their own best interests. The commons are gone and all we have left is the memory of it. Stability is not on the horizon.
- antisthenes 1y agoThen we haven't had a stable population in several centuries, because it was rapidly growing. Yet we have made (hopefully this is not contentious) great strides in technology, human rights, and general quality of life. Certainly there were some stable societies in that timeframe?
- bryanlarsen 1y ago"great strides in technology, human rights, and general quality of life." is growth, not stability.
- antisthenes 1y agoCongratulations, you have taken the argument so far from the original point as to make it useless.