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it absolutely will mean surveillance, unless you were born yesterday. governments will implement what you're describing in a way that is not privacy preserving

it absolutely will mean surveillance, unless you were born yesterday. governments will implement what you're describing in a way that is not privacy preserving this is supposed to be HACKER news, not fucking bootlicker news

gjsman-1000 1y ago
Yes, and we're losing. Why do you think the internet is covered in ads, 25% Cloudflare, infested with CAPTCHAs and IP blocking, and the problem gets worse every year? There are real problems that haven't been fixed; the driver's license concept correctly implemented might be better than continuing down this path. I view it as we can make a good standard; or let a bad standard be dictated.
- dingnuts 1y ago
  > Yes, and we're losing. Why do you think Obviously. Why do YOU think I'm angry-posting about it on the orange shithole site with the username "dingnuts" ?
- ipaddr 1y ago
  The drivers license id doesn't solve anything but adds a layer of nonsense on top. That doesn't stop cloudflares marketshare takeover. It doesn't stop CAPTCHA which will filter out bots using these ids. It provides an easy method for hackers to use. It filters out the curious kids. In the end it solves nothing and creates more problems.
- int_19h 1y ago
  Most ads that I see these days are from Big Tech megacorps. Do you seriously think that having a "driver license for the Internet" would mean that the likes of Google and Meta would stop?
- hombre_fatal 1y ago
  Those are trivial problems compared to an internet linked to your identity. Clicking through some captchas and installing an adblocker just isn't the hard life you're trying to claim it is.
- immibis 1y ago
  At least in the current system, there are some websites where you don't have to prove your real identity. Hacker News, for example. In an internet driver's license system, remember that your computer would have to be locked down, and only able to access government-approved websites using government-approved clients - something like they have in China, or like using an iPhone but worse. Once the ability for any site to verify your identity was set up, all sites would have to verify your identity, or lose their own verification, under one of many standard excuses like protecting the children.
sophacles 1y ago
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- ipaddr 1y ago
  The level of discourse has drop here. Someone steals your id creds and uses them as you is the simplest. The methods will range from stealing ids to breaking into auth servers to mitm attacks or fake ids and rogue auth servers. Everything works so well with video game protection methods now.. no one will be able to crack anything?
- int_19h 1y ago
  The recipes and tools for bypassing these kinds of blocks (and far worse ones as well - compared to what Russia and China are doing, this is child play) are one search away. The only thing necessary is the desire to actually do it.

gjsman-1000 1y ago

Yes, and we're losing. Why do you think the internet is covered in ads, 25% Cloudflare, infested with CAPTCHAs and IP blocking, and the problem gets worse every year? There are real problems that haven't been fixed; the driver's license concept correctly implemented might be better than continuing down this path. I view it as we can make a good standard; or let a bad standard be dictated.

dingnuts 1y ago
> Yes, and we're losing. Why do you think Obviously. Why do YOU think I'm angry-posting about it on the orange shithole site with the username "dingnuts" ?
ipaddr 1y ago
The drivers license id doesn't solve anything but adds a layer of nonsense on top. That doesn't stop cloudflares marketshare takeover. It doesn't stop CAPTCHA which will filter out bots using these ids. It provides an easy method for hackers to use. It filters out the curious kids. In the end it solves nothing and creates more problems.
int_19h 1y ago
Most ads that I see these days are from Big Tech megacorps. Do you seriously think that having a "driver license for the Internet" would mean that the likes of Google and Meta would stop?
hombre_fatal 1y ago
Those are trivial problems compared to an internet linked to your identity. Clicking through some captchas and installing an adblocker just isn't the hard life you're trying to claim it is.
immibis 1y ago
At least in the current system, there are some websites where you don't have to prove your real identity. Hacker News, for example. In an internet driver's license system, remember that your computer would have to be locked down, and only able to access government-approved websites using government-approved clients - something like they have in China, or like using an iPhone but worse. Once the ability for any site to verify your identity was set up, all sites would have to verify your identity, or lose their own verification, under one of many standard excuses like protecting the children.

sophacles 1y ago

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ipaddr 1y ago
The level of discourse has drop here. Someone steals your id creds and uses them as you is the simplest. The methods will range from stealing ids to breaking into auth servers to mitm attacks or fake ids and rogue auth servers. Everything works so well with video game protection methods now.. no one will be able to crack anything?
int_19h 1y ago
The recipes and tools for bypassing these kinds of blocks (and far worse ones as well - compared to what Russia and China are doing, this is child play) are one search away. The only thing necessary is the desire to actually do it.