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PSA: UK users can visit all their favourite websites in Tor Browser. Just don't run your torrent client using the tor network. Thank you. You can also access 4
by amiga386 1y ago
PSA: UK users can visit all their favourite websites in Tor Browser. Just don't run your torrent client using the tor network. Thank you.
You can also access 4chan, Tattle Life, and other nasty gossip websites that the UK nanny state wants to ban.
And you can access the porn on Reddit and Twitter (though in some cases you'll have to make an account). And of course the "tube" sites work fine.
After you've done that, as a UK citizen, please go to https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903 https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903 and ask the government to repeal their awful law.
- deleted 1y ago[deleted]
- jchw 1y agoI don't actually use Reddit or Twitter, but I sometimes come across NSFW posts from links. I've found that old.reddit.com seems to allow you to bypass the filter(s) without needing an account. For Twitter, I tend to use the xcancel.com Nitter instance, though there are other Nitter instances that work fine. Bonus for using Nitter here, you can also see the latest posts from an account instead of the most popular posts, and see replies/interactions to individual tweets. Oh, and it gives you plain HTML. Reddit pisses me off so much that despite the fact that I don't even use Reddit, just so that my experience sucks less when I'm linked to Reddit or have another reason to lurk it, - I use the "Old Reddit Redirect" extension to force the browser to go to old reddit - I use the "Load Reddit Images Directly" extension to bypass Reddit's hideous image viewer that tries to load if your browser makes the mistake of having text/html in the "Accept" headers when opening an image in a new tab. (Dear Firefox/Chrome/etc: maybe stop doing that? If I open an image in a new tab, there is a zero percent chance I want HTML.)
- peterpost2 1y agoThe bypass via old.reddit.com stopped working today as well.
- Normal_gaussian 1y agoI just googled 'top nsfw Reddit' and aside from some disturbing implications of 'top' all opened fine with 'old.'. The IP is UK based, is coming up as UK on all geoip sites I tried and is in all of the last 30days of maxmind as UK based. It might be some kind of phased rollout of course.
- jchw 1y agoOops, I should note that I'm a U.S. citizen in a state without any porn age gate laws. I have no idea what the status of using old.reddit.com to bypass the NSFW filter is in other jurisdictions, or honestly even my own (not sure how to test it.) All I know for sure is that it worked last time I tried it.
- gh02t 1y agoIs the reddit equivalent of xcancel/nitter (i.e., redlib https://github.com/redlib-org/redlib https://github.com/redlib-org/redlib) also blocked? Presumably if the instance is hosted outside the UK it would work since I think it effectively proxies your requests.
- godelski 1y agoReddit is also very aggressive at blocking VPNs. Mullvad is constantly blocked. Occasionally I'll turn it off, but Reddit is just a terrible place so I usually go elsewhere (I'm only going because of Google search results. I'd rather use an LLM than turn off my vpn for Reddit)
- varenc 1y ago> - I use the "Old Reddit Redirect" extension to force the browser to go to old reddit if you make a Reddit account, you can flip an obscure setting so that www.reddit.com serves the same site as old.reddit.com
- jchw 1y agoI used to have one, but I don't anymore and personally I think if they ever force everyone onto new reddit I will probably just not follow reddit.com links anymore (or use a proxy that is less annoying, if those prove reliable enough.)
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- fnord77 1y agoOn tor, reddit blocks you from logging in with 90-95% of the exit nodes
- blackhaj7 1y ago> Just don't run your torrent client using the tor network. I have never used tor so novice question: why not? > please go to https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903 https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903 Signed!
- Retr0id 1y agoThe tor network essentially relies on donated exit node bandwidth, and there's a finite capacity at any point in time. Torrenting is a bandwidth hog (and a lot of exit nodes will filter it out anyway)
- noisem4ker 1y agoIs it really just a matter of my bandwidth being hogged up, or more a risk of getting my IP address (range) banned, if not worse legal risks from activities being traced to me?
- immibis 1y agoYou can't get banned because no one knows who you are. You can bring down the entire Tor network. Probably not you by yourself, but if enough people do it they can.
- radlad 1y agoI believe OP was responding from the perspective of an exit node operator.
- immibis 1y agoExit nodes have to deal with much more severe things than copyright infringement. They regularly get raided by law enforcement for accusations of child porn and hacking, and have to defend themselves by pointing out they didn't originate the traffic. There's a whole bunch of tips out there about how to not go to jail for running an exit node (which is legal).
- dtf 1y agoYou'll need more than just an account to access "certain mature content" on sites like Reddit - you'll soon need to upload some photographic ID. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj4ep1znk4zo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj4ep1znk4zo
- Retr0id 1y agoI wrote a similar comment but then realised that if you're using tor per GP's recommendation, you'd be fine as long as your exit node isn't in the UK, or other regressive jurisdiction.
- zerotolerance 1y agoIt is trivial to create a digital picture of a false ID.
- Canada 1y agoWhich is why you will need to provide a cryptographically secure identity credential issued by the government, and you will need to re-verify at regular intervals, not just upload a JPEG. Make no mistake, the plan is to require 'KYC' for Google, reddit, Facebook, X soon and all that and then later require it for all web sites, even this one. Australia recently passed a law requiring Google to KYC Australian account holders to check ages to decide if the user will be allowed to control the "safe search" setting.
- hellojesus 1y agoWhy don't users just share passwords? Assuming no credit cards attached to the account, serms no reason not to.
- Canada 1y agoHave you tried that with Google accounts now? They'll logout all your sessions and force extra authentication to get back in. There will always be something you could maybe do as a workaround, but they are going to make it extremely hard.
- johnisgood 1y agoI hope many UK citizens are going to sign it.
- cedws 1y agoEven if it does, nothing will change. They've been trying to push through this legislation for 10 years. They don't care what the citizens want - their need to spy takes priority.
- johnisgood 1y agoI know, what it might do is make people realize that they are not in control, which is what I would like people to know, as a bare minimum.
- daveoc64 1y ago> They don't care what the citizens want Polling has shown that the Online Safety Act had 70+ % of the population supporting it. Something like 60% don't think it goes far enough.
- danlugo92 1y agoCrazy stuff
- Retr0id 1y agoTor is great but the bandwidth/latency kinda sucks for casual browsing activity. A VPN is a more realistic workaround to this kind of geofencing. I almost said "solution" instead of workaround, but of course the only actual solution is to fix the legislation.
- mike-cardwell 1y agoIt's actually pretty ok for casual browsing these days. Have you tried it recently?
- ReaperCub 1y ago> Tor is great but the bandwidth/latency kinda sucks for casual browsing activity It is reasonably decent these days. Generally there are periods where Tor network is slow. > A VPN is a more realistic workaround to this kind of geofencing Generally I tend to use a combination of Tor / VPN depending on what I am doing. Some gossip sites have onion urls and I will use Tor if visiting those. Other sites that are geo-fenced (sites like Odysee) are easier to get to via VPN. > I almost said "solution" instead of workaround, but of course the only actual solution is to fix the legislation. That isn't going to get fixed anytime soon. In fact I expect it to get worse over time.
- pjc50 1y agoNot really been much advance notice of that to account holders. I wonder how the normally sane and well balanced people left using Twitter will react to that. Or even how they determine "UK account" anyway, given all the usual geographical qualifiers.
- pmdr 1y ago> PSA: UK users can visit all their favourite websites in Tor Browser. And get to solve a dozen whack-a-mole intentionally-slow-loading reCAPTCHAs just to see the page, or worse, end up in a Cloudflare redirect loop.
- tracker1 1y agoI get enough of that between Brave Browser and using Linux as my desktop OS.
- mhitza 1y agoThey don't show up significantly more often for me than in Brave browser. Though at that point might as well use Tor in Brave, because the additional ad&trackers blockers improves drastically the load times. Now, if only Brave would go the extra mile of having the Tor browser window better mimick the Tor Browser.
- tracker1 1y agoI've got PiHole and a couple extensions installed that block more than Brave itself does. Not really into Tor, but I did try it a couple times.
- ReaperCub 1y agoI use tor semi-regularly to get around stupid UK geo-fencing of content and honestly it hasn't been like that in a while.
- chasil 1y agoIt might be necessary to ensure that your exit node is not in the UK or another locality that is otherwise blocked. That procedure depends upon your platform and client. http://www.b3rn3d.com/blog/2014/03/05/tor-country-codes/ http://www.b3rn3d.com/blog/2014/03/05/tor-country-codes/ Edit: Use this link instead (thanks mzajc!): https://web.archive.org/web/20180429212133/http://www.b3rn3d.com/blog/2014/03/05/tor-country-codes/ https://web.archive.org/web/20180429212133/http://www.b3rn3d...
- sherr 1y agoI get a "badware" risk on that link from uBlock Origin (Firefox). "uBlock filters – Badware risks"
- mzajc 1y agoThe domain has been squatted and displays typical spam advertisements. The last good archive is on https://web.archive.org/web/20180429212133/http://www.b3rn3d.com/blog/2014/03/05/tor-country-codes/ https://web.archive.org/web/20180429212133/http://www.b3rn3d...
- Spivak 1y agoTor is great but wouldn't an easier and higher bandwidth (for the yarr harr) solution to just buy any VPN service that exits outside of the UK?
- v5v3 1y agoYes
- GoblinSlayer 1y agoVPNs are yet another Cloudflare and are next in line to implement censorship.
- Spivak 1y agoThey very well could be, but I doubt they remain in business for very long were they compelled to block the raison d'etre people use them.
- immibis 1y agoThe choice will be between going out of business and going to jail. They'll choose to go out of business. I've noticed that HN users often think businesses have some obligation to be infinitely sustainable - they do not. They just need to be sustainable long enough to recoup their setup costs.
- GoblinSlayer 1y agoCloudflare doesn't go out of business, neither will vpns.
- immibis 1y agoCloudflare doesn't do things that send them to jail, like ignoring court orders. They'll log whatever the court tells them to log. Cloudflare does plenty of sketchy stuff, like deliberately hosting DDoS-for-hire sites because it increases the demand for anti-DDoS products. But they will take them down if they are ordered to - and reveal their origin IP. They are not going to jail for you.
- mystraline 1y ago[flagged]
- Lariscus 1y agoStop disseminating misinformation by a YouTuber who has no business making judgement calls on a topic they obviously don't understand.
- 6510 1y agoStrange that they would allow such petitions in North Korea.. ehh I mean in the uk.
- ReaperCub 1y ago> After you've done that, as a UK citizen, please go to https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903 https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903 and ask the government to repeal their awful law. There is literally no point in signing those petitions. The only disagreement between the major political parties in the UK is how draconian it should be.
- v5v3 1y agoSsshhh They may work out that UK has a 2 party system where each one just takes turns and none of it makes much difference.
- ReaperCub 1y agoI don't think many of the so called alternatives are going to be any better. Wait til they figure that one out!
- teamonkey 1y agoIf it hits 100k then it needs to be debated in parliament. However the bill was already debated in parliament and got through and the petition doesn’t bring anything new to the table. There would be more of an impact if, perhaps, everyone in the UK who has had to shut a web site because of this law wrote to their MP.
- ReaperCub 1y ago> If it hits 100k then it needs to be debated in parliament. I don't think so. It says on the site "At 100,000 signatures, this petition will be considered for debate in Parliament". I've seen people get excited about petitions before that got to 100,000 signatures and it all fizzled out, or it wasn't debated seriously in parliament. Often you will get a cookie cutter response with these petitions that is a paragraph long. The reality is that most of the public are indifferent or supportive of the current legislation and most MPs know that. > There would be more of an impact if, perhaps, everyone in the UK who has had to shut a web site because of this law wrote to their MP. Each MP would get maybe a max of 10s of emails/letters each. Many of those MPs wouldn't even bother answering you. Those that do will often will probably give you the brush off. I've written to my MP before (about encryption legislation), spent a lot of time presenting a clear and cogent argument and I got a "well I might have a chat with the home secretary" and they were still singing the same tune years later. What I was telling them was largely the same as other industry experts. They don't care and that is the unfortunate reality. The fact is that the direction the UK government (doesn't matter whether it was Red Team or Blue Team) has been going in has been clear for well over a decade at this point. It would take a major political shake up for this to change IMHO.
- MortyWaves 1y agoI have no idea what Tattle Life is but two clicks in, first to “Offtopic” and then “The Lucy Letby case”, and Apple Pay pops up. Not a fake one, but the real deal trying to charge me £0.00. I don’t have the patience to investigate that further but I am all behind banning scummy sites like that.
- v5v3 1y agoTor is a bit slow for streaming video.
- ge96 1y agoFunny in a US state I'm finding more and more places are popping up with an age verification. Doesn't really bother me so much content out there but yeah. It's weird too how I don't want to prove my age, guess it's the taboo aspect of it vs. say showing your id at a bar.
- hellojesus 1y agoBars usually don't write down your data or associate every movement you make while there with your id, so it's definitely more risky than the traditional meatspace verification process. Part of the issue is that for my entire life, age was either not enforced or a promise. It feels wrong having gates up where they previously didn't exist. I get it; I wandered into gay porn sites and irc chats when I was in the 4th grade back in the 90s, and my friends and I loved chatting up those interested in our pre-teenage selves at the time. But I still will never provide a legit id for any age restricted services. Though I do have fakes for non us based companies to deal with financial kyc but haven't used them in some time (years), so no idea if they would work in the days of oligarchic identity management saas.