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> I can't find a single open source codebase, actively used in production, and primarily maintained and developed with AI. As I stated, you haven't been paying

> I can't find a single open source codebase, actively used in production, and primarily maintained and developed with AI. As I stated, you haven't been paying attention.

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belter 1y ago
At least we know you are human, since you are gaslighting us instead of citing a random link, that leads to a 404 page. An LLM would have confidently hallucinated a broken reference by now.
- Cthulhu_ 1y ago
  Not necessarily, one aspect of the LLM arms race is to have the most up-to-date records or to use a search engine to find stuff.
  - jdiff 1y ago
    If the LLM thinks to consult a search engine. If the next token predicted is the start of a link rather than the start of a tool call, it's going to be spitting out a link. Getting them to reliably use tools rather than freeball seems to be quite a difficult problem to solve.
mcherm 1y ago
A better-faith response would be to point out an example of such an open source codebase OR tell why that specific set of restrictions (open-source, active production, primarily AI) is unrealistic. For instance, one might point out that the tools for really GOOD AI code authoring have only been available for about 6 months so it is unreasonable to expect that a new project built primarily using such tools has already reached the level of maturity to be relied on in production.
- eddythompson80 1y ago
  “you haven’t been listening. It’s inevitable to happen”
- JimmaDaRustla 1y ago
  I don't have time to handhold the ignorant. I do however have time to put forth my arguments now that I use LLMs to make my job easier - if it weren't for them, I wouldn't be here right now.
  - eddythompson80 1y ago
    You don’t have time to post a link with an example. You have time to post a wall of text instead.
    - JimmaDaRustla 1y ago
      My code isn't open source.
      - eddythompson80 1y ago
        Checkmate
        JimmaDaRustla 1y ago
        You didn't checkmate anything. You're perfectly capable of looking at the world around you. You're arguing in bad faith using a false dichotomy that I must be able to produce examples or my argument is not valid. You're trying to suck all the air out of the room and waste time. https://tools.simonwillison.net/ https://tools.simonwillison.net/ ChECk MaTee
        slacktivism123 1y ago
        Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Aside from that, I don't see how the collection of simple one-shot JavaScript wrappers (like "Extract URLs", "Word Counter", and "Pomodoro Timer") that you keep bringing up is related to your argument.
mashygpig 1y ago
I don’t find it fair that you point out straw man in your parent comment and then use ad hominem in this comment. I would love to see you post some examples. I think you’d have a chance of persuading several readers to at least be more open minded.
nkrisc 1y ago
So… which ones?
- JimmaDaRustla 1y ago
  Mine, it's how I have time to argue with the denialists right now.
  - eddythompson80 1y ago
    Nice sales pitch.
hinkley 1y ago
> But despite extensive searching myself and after asking many proponents

> I can't find a single open source codebase, actively used in production, and primarily maintained and developed with AI. As I stated, you haven't been paying attention.

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belter 1y ago

At least we know you are human, since you are gaslighting us instead of citing a random link, that leads to a 404 page. An LLM would have confidently hallucinated a broken reference by now.

Cthulhu_ 1y ago
Not necessarily, one aspect of the LLM arms race is to have the most up-to-date records or to use a search engine to find stuff.
- jdiff 1y ago
  If the LLM thinks to consult a search engine. If the next token predicted is the start of a link rather than the start of a tool call, it's going to be spitting out a link. Getting them to reliably use tools rather than freeball seems to be quite a difficult problem to solve.

mcherm 1y ago

A better-faith response would be to point out an example of such an open source codebase OR tell why that specific set of restrictions (open-source, active production, primarily AI) is unrealistic. For instance, one might point out that the tools for really GOOD AI code authoring have only been available for about 6 months so it is unreasonable to expect that a new project built primarily using such tools has already reached the level of maturity to be relied on in production.

eddythompson80 1y ago
“you haven’t been listening. It’s inevitable to happen”
JimmaDaRustla 1y ago
I don't have time to handhold the ignorant. I do however have time to put forth my arguments now that I use LLMs to make my job easier - if it weren't for them, I wouldn't be here right now.
- eddythompson80 1y ago
  You don’t have time to post a link with an example. You have time to post a wall of text instead.
  - JimmaDaRustla 1y ago
    My code isn't open source.
    - eddythompson80 1y ago
      Checkmate
      - JimmaDaRustla 1y ago
        You didn't checkmate anything. You're perfectly capable of looking at the world around you. You're arguing in bad faith using a false dichotomy that I must be able to produce examples or my argument is not valid. You're trying to suck all the air out of the room and waste time. https://tools.simonwillison.net/ https://tools.simonwillison.net/ ChECk MaTee
        slacktivism123 1y ago
        Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Aside from that, I don't see how the collection of simple one-shot JavaScript wrappers (like "Extract URLs", "Word Counter", and "Pomodoro Timer") that you keep bringing up is related to your argument.

mashygpig 1y ago

I don’t find it fair that you point out straw man in your parent comment and then use ad hominem in this comment. I would love to see you post some examples. I think you’d have a chance of persuading several readers to at least be more open minded.

nkrisc 1y ago

So… which ones?

JimmaDaRustla 1y ago
Mine, it's how I have time to argue with the denialists right now.
- eddythompson80 1y ago
  Nice sales pitch.

hinkley 1y ago

> But despite extensive searching myself and after asking many proponents