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Anything from somewhere more credible than Medium?

andyjsong 1y ago
https://www.economist.com/interactive/asia/2025/05/28/if-india-chokes-less-it-will-fry-more?utm_medium=social-media.content.np&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=editorial-social&utm_content=discovery.content&fbclid=IwY2xjawLAijFleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFVRWFwNTF0QUxRTGZnSXVHAR6A70oL6J7Llv150x430tVjVhmih5-A2NovxmIYYyhnDxrbI7SBrSc2Khbfhg_aem_pzWy1n5s7cheIbyaiZkGiA https://www.economist.com/interactive/asia/2025/05/28/if-ind... TL;DR India should be hotter, but due to sulfur dioxide emissions at ground level the rate of warming is a third less. For reference, the current rate of warming is ~0.25C per decade.
- SlowTao 1y ago
  And yet again, in a weird way, India lives up to the adage of being disappointing to both pessimists and optimists.
swed420 1y ago
The article is well cited with external references if you're interested in validating the claims made.
- defrost 1y ago
  FWiW I've been in geophysical exploration, mapping, and modeling since the 1980s and have no issue with the IPCC's reports on AGW. (I'm also responsible for posting this submission after reading the paper linked). From your linked medium article: By 2050 total human population will likely be under 2 billion. Humans, along with most other animals, will go extinct before the end of this century. These impacts are locked in and cannot be averted. are all things I don't agree with. How can you validate (ie prove) these claims? NB: Climate aside, the current "birthrate crisis" that the natalists scream about will see a flattening of population growth by 2050 .. that leaves ~ 8 billion to vanish to reach the 2 billion asserted.
  - swed420 1y ago
    The statement directly following your lifted intro quotes is > Everything in this article is supporting information for this conclusion. So, > How can you validate (ie prove) these claims? By reading the rest of the article and its references. As you probably know, not many things in this realm can be proven with 100% certainty.
    - defrost 1y ago
      Which falsifies These impacts are locked in and cannot be averted. trivially.
      - swed420 1y ago
        It's not as outlandish as you're attempting to paint it as, considering the author is assuming that capital interests remain in control when making such a claim. And under that assumption, it's a bit crazy to think anything but depopulation will happen. Everything points to it being in their playbook; the blatant mishandling of COVID (which is far from over) by the uniparty being one of many glaring examples.
        SlowTao 1y ago
        I agree depopulation will happen by simple resource limitations but I do not think it is any part of a playbook. Hanlons razer : Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Many wish there was at least malice because then there is a narrative, the reality is probably much more muddled and messy.
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        swed420 1y ago
        Hanlons razor has limits, as exemplified by declassified CIA etc horrors over the decades among other things. Capital incentives make people behave like animals, and even well intentioned ones are often coerced by said animals else face the ultimate price.
- hammyhavoc 1y ago
  So, "no" then?

https://www.economist.com/interactive/asia/2025/05/28/if-india-chokes-less-it-will-fry-more?utm_medium=social-media.content.np&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=editorial-social&utm_content=discovery.content&fbclid=IwY2xjawLAijFleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFVRWFwNTF0QUxRTGZnSXVHAR6A70oL6J7Llv150x430tVjVhmih5-A2NovxmIYYyhnDxrbI7SBrSc2Khbfhg_aem_pzWy1n5s7cheIbyaiZkGiA https://www.economist.com/interactive/asia/2025/05/28/if-ind... TL;DR India should be hotter, but due to sulfur dioxide emissions at ground level the rate of warming is a third less. For reference, the current rate of warming is ~0.25C per decade.

SlowTao 1y ago
And yet again, in a weird way, India lives up to the adage of being disappointing to both pessimists and optimists.

swed420 1y ago

The article is well cited with external references if you're interested in validating the claims made.

defrost 1y ago
FWiW I've been in geophysical exploration, mapping, and modeling since the 1980s and have no issue with the IPCC's reports on AGW. (I'm also responsible for posting this submission after reading the paper linked). From your linked medium article: By 2050 total human population will likely be under 2 billion. Humans, along with most other animals, will go extinct before the end of this century. These impacts are locked in and cannot be averted. are all things I don't agree with. How can you validate (ie prove) these claims? NB: Climate aside, the current "birthrate crisis" that the natalists scream about will see a flattening of population growth by 2050 .. that leaves ~ 8 billion to vanish to reach the 2 billion asserted.
- swed420 1y ago
  The statement directly following your lifted intro quotes is > Everything in this article is supporting information for this conclusion. So, > How can you validate (ie prove) these claims? By reading the rest of the article and its references. As you probably know, not many things in this realm can be proven with 100% certainty.
  - defrost 1y ago
    Which falsifies These impacts are locked in and cannot be averted. trivially.
    - swed420 1y ago
      It's not as outlandish as you're attempting to paint it as, considering the author is assuming that capital interests remain in control when making such a claim. And under that assumption, it's a bit crazy to think anything but depopulation will happen. Everything points to it being in their playbook; the blatant mishandling of COVID (which is far from over) by the uniparty being one of many glaring examples.
      - SlowTao 1y ago
        I agree depopulation will happen by simple resource limitations but I do not think it is any part of a playbook. Hanlons razer : Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Many wish there was at least malice because then there is a narrative, the reality is probably much more muddled and messy.
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        swed420 1y ago
        Hanlons razor has limits, as exemplified by declassified CIA etc horrors over the decades among other things. Capital incentives make people behave like animals, and even well intentioned ones are often coerced by said animals else face the ultimate price.
hammyhavoc 1y ago
So, "no" then?