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Ok, so nobody here knows directly of any case where such data has been purchased, or vaguely similar, and we have no pricing information whatsoever available, b

Ok, so nobody here knows directly of any case where such data has been purchased, or vaguely similar, and we have no pricing information whatsoever available, but we are somehow completely knowledgeable about it being possible and how to do it? That sounds unlikely.

leoqa 1y ago
Yeah people fail to provide examples but continue to be doomers about how easy it is.
- dylan604 1y ago
  Been busy, but since you seem to be unable to find any body by searching on your own for the past 6 hours, here's something I found with a quick little search. https://datarade.ai/data-categories/food-grocery-transaction-data https://datarade.ai/data-categories/food-grocery-transaction... Have we really lost the ability to use search functionality??
andrew_lettuce 1y ago
The supposedly in-the-know responses here are full of bravado but not much other than "trust me, bro"
- JohnMakin 1y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44565878 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44565878 Yea, you know everything, don't you.
  - some_random 1y ago
    Wow the Transunion business site, that really proves it huh.
    - dylan604 1y ago
      Experian is known to sell the data they have. Why is this even in question? If I provide you Experian's website, you would give the same BS response? Let me google this for you... https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+buy+data+from+a+data+broker&t=h_&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+buy+data+from+a+data+broker...
      - some_random 1y ago
        The conversation was for buying transaction data from specific people, something that many seem to insist is easy and cheap and doable. Meanwhile if you actually read the responses to that search you smugly cited you'll find that no one seems to know how to actually do anything remotely like this. Yes this data is definitely harvested and it seems like you should be able to buy it in bulk from someone somewhere, but again no one seems to know where or how much or what the purchase minimum would be etc.
        JohnMakin 1y ago
        You asked for an example, one was given. if you’re saying you dont know how to send an email to a business page with the products purporting services described here - no comment in this section can help you
- broker354690 1y ago
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JohnMakin 1y ago
Of course people do. 5 seconds spent doing the most sparse-ass research will help you find plenty of stuff. If people don't respond, I imagine, for fear of 1) outing the specific area they work in, or 2) realizing these kinds of comments aren't generally acting in good faith so it is generally a complete waste of time. I'll waste my own time and give a trivial example just off the top of my head. Go peruse some of the products offered on this page, put on your thinking cap or even look into them further and imagine what kind of data those services provide, where it likely comes from, and where it is sold to, and you'll be well on your way - and those are just the ones that are advertised openly. https://www.transunion.com/business https://www.transunion.com/business Pretty much every one of the big players people typically associate with other areas such as personal credit have some feet in this space somewhere. Then theres the hundreds of lesser-known fly-by-night guys that have their own DB's they build off of mostly what is the same data, but correlated in different ways and sold to different audiences. There are many, many services offering data-for-sale on practically anything to practically anyone. I heard of one recently claiming it can reliably determine someone's porn preferences. The fact you personally have never come across it, or are saying you aren't, is only a data point that is interesting to you, and no one else that actually knows what they are talking about in this space. Hope this post helps you somehow.
- southernplaces7 1y ago
  >There are many, many services offering data-for-sale on practically anything to practically anyone. I heard of one recently claiming it can reliably determine someone's porn preferences. Okay but then why not name at least a couple such services. Also, if the tech industry isn't selling data to them, where do they obtain it? Again, I see lots of ambiguity here, and the example link from transunion is hardly revealing of anything.
  - dylan604 1y ago
    Credit card companies are known to sell data. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mastercard-credit-card-customer-data-sold/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mastercard-credit-card-customer... Mobile service providers are known to have sold data. https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-fines-largest-wireless-carriers-sharing-location-data https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-fines-largest-wireless-carr... Auto makers are known to sell data. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a61711288/automakers-sold-customer-data-for-small-profits/ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a61711288/automakers-sold-... You act like it doesn't happen, yet time and time again we learn about companies selling whatever data they can collect. I can't believe we are still questioning this fact What else do you need to know?

leoqa 1y ago

Yeah people fail to provide examples but continue to be doomers about how easy it is.

dylan604 1y ago
Been busy, but since you seem to be unable to find any body by searching on your own for the past 6 hours, here's something I found with a quick little search. https://datarade.ai/data-categories/food-grocery-transaction-data https://datarade.ai/data-categories/food-grocery-transaction... Have we really lost the ability to use search functionality??

andrew_lettuce 1y ago

The supposedly in-the-know responses here are full of bravado but not much other than "trust me, bro"

JohnMakin 1y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44565878 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44565878 Yea, you know everything, don't you.
- some_random 1y ago
  Wow the Transunion business site, that really proves it huh.
  - dylan604 1y ago
    Experian is known to sell the data they have. Why is this even in question? If I provide you Experian's website, you would give the same BS response? Let me google this for you... https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+buy+data+from+a+data+broker&t=h_&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+buy+data+from+a+data+broker...
    - some_random 1y ago
      The conversation was for buying transaction data from specific people, something that many seem to insist is easy and cheap and doable. Meanwhile if you actually read the responses to that search you smugly cited you'll find that no one seems to know how to actually do anything remotely like this. Yes this data is definitely harvested and it seems like you should be able to buy it in bulk from someone somewhere, but again no one seems to know where or how much or what the purchase minimum would be etc.
      - JohnMakin 1y ago
        You asked for an example, one was given. if you’re saying you dont know how to send an email to a business page with the products purporting services described here - no comment in this section can help you
broker354690 1y ago
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JohnMakin 1y ago

Of course people do. 5 seconds spent doing the most sparse-ass research will help you find plenty of stuff. If people don't respond, I imagine, for fear of 1) outing the specific area they work in, or 2) realizing these kinds of comments aren't generally acting in good faith so it is generally a complete waste of time. I'll waste my own time and give a trivial example just off the top of my head. Go peruse some of the products offered on this page, put on your thinking cap or even look into them further and imagine what kind of data those services provide, where it likely comes from, and where it is sold to, and you'll be well on your way - and those are just the ones that are advertised openly. https://www.transunion.com/business https://www.transunion.com/business Pretty much every one of the big players people typically associate with other areas such as personal credit have some feet in this space somewhere. Then theres the hundreds of lesser-known fly-by-night guys that have their own DB's they build off of mostly what is the same data, but correlated in different ways and sold to different audiences. There are many, many services offering data-for-sale on practically anything to practically anyone. I heard of one recently claiming it can reliably determine someone's porn preferences. The fact you personally have never come across it, or are saying you aren't, is only a data point that is interesting to you, and no one else that actually knows what they are talking about in this space. Hope this post helps you somehow.

southernplaces7 1y ago
>There are many, many services offering data-for-sale on practically anything to practically anyone. I heard of one recently claiming it can reliably determine someone's porn preferences. Okay but then why not name at least a couple such services. Also, if the tech industry isn't selling data to them, where do they obtain it? Again, I see lots of ambiguity here, and the example link from transunion is hardly revealing of anything.
- dylan604 1y ago
  Credit card companies are known to sell data. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mastercard-credit-card-customer-data-sold/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mastercard-credit-card-customer... Mobile service providers are known to have sold data. https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-fines-largest-wireless-carriers-sharing-location-data https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-fines-largest-wireless-carr... Auto makers are known to sell data. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a61711288/automakers-sold-customer-data-for-small-profits/ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a61711288/automakers-sold-... You act like it doesn't happen, yet time and time again we learn about companies selling whatever data they can collect. I can't believe we are still questioning this fact What else do you need to know?