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Conflating "police reform" and "defund the police" is disingenuous.

• JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > Conflating "police reform" and "defund the police" is disingenuous In New York they were one and the same. The latter simply representing the most extreme expression of the former. I remember dropping into a leftist conference in Philadelphia years ago where several folks who would become the face of post-Covid police reform were there, including Boudin. At the end of the day they all conceded that their goal was abolishing this, that and the other thing.
  • ceejayoz 1y ago
    > In New York they were one and the same. As a NY resident: lol. I don't doubt you'll find activists espousing both "defund the police" and "end cash bail" policies at the same time. That doesn't make them the same policy.
    • JumpCrisscross 1y ago
      > That doesn't make them the same policy Oh, they’re totally different policies. But they’re basically the same politics. And they both generated a backlash, one against messaging (because it was too stupid to implement) and one against policy (because it created more visible crime).
  • sapphicsnail 1y ago
    A leftist conference? I don't think actual leftists have much say on policy.