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Mixed students and groups always perform better

harvey9 1y ago
One study among many corroborating ones showing girls in all girls schools outperform girls in mixed schools https://www.kidsnews.com.au/humanities/study-reveals-benefits-of-allgirls-schools/news-story/bd53dfc34ee1b989266b5e7ae45a3a44 https://www.kidsnews.com.au/humanities/study-reveals-benefit...
- kjkjadksj 1y ago
  Not so surprising. Generally the disruptive students are boys.
  - inglor_cz 1y ago
    I'd be surprised if this was the only reason. Generally, in mixed-gender groups aged 13+, you will have some dating activity and a subsequent drama / bad blood from various heartbreaks and betrayals. Having to sit in the same classroom makes everything emotionally worse. This is somewhat less of a problem if the same activites take place outside school and thus are less likely to complicate relationships within the class.
- leblancfg 1y ago
  I'm not familiar with the Australian education system or this study's design, but at first glance, this quote >The report, commissioned by the Alliance of Girls’ Schools Australasia, was conducted by Macquarie Marketing Group using OECD data reads more to me like "we found that all-girl private schools are better than the average of public and private schools", and the obvious reason why is probably *because they're private schools*, and not because they're all-girl.
  - harvey9 1y ago
    Same pattern in UK state schools https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35419284 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35419284
    - leblancfg 1y ago
      Same comment as above. From your article: > there are some underlying factors skewing these results, such as: > * grammar schools are more likely to be single-sex > * co-educational schools have a higher proportion of poorer pupils > * girls are more likely to get good results
      - harvey9 1y ago
        The original statement which I replied to was an absolute position. These examples invalidate it. Also note that both of your comments show that people in a position to choose, are choosing single sex schools for their daughters and getting better outcomes on average. Lastly, while the article mentions some caveats around selective state schools, the other side of that is the UK has many single sex comprehensive schools. We should not ascribe too much weight to the caveat.

One study among many corroborating ones showing girls in all girls schools outperform girls in mixed schools https://www.kidsnews.com.au/humanities/study-reveals-benefits-of-allgirls-schools/news-story/bd53dfc34ee1b989266b5e7ae45a3a44 https://www.kidsnews.com.au/humanities/study-reveals-benefit...

kjkjadksj 1y ago
Not so surprising. Generally the disruptive students are boys.
- inglor_cz 1y ago
  I'd be surprised if this was the only reason. Generally, in mixed-gender groups aged 13+, you will have some dating activity and a subsequent drama / bad blood from various heartbreaks and betrayals. Having to sit in the same classroom makes everything emotionally worse. This is somewhat less of a problem if the same activites take place outside school and thus are less likely to complicate relationships within the class.
leblancfg 1y ago
I'm not familiar with the Australian education system or this study's design, but at first glance, this quote >The report, commissioned by the Alliance of Girls’ Schools Australasia, was conducted by Macquarie Marketing Group using OECD data reads more to me like "we found that all-girl private schools are better than the average of public and private schools", and the obvious reason why is probably *because they're private schools*, and not because they're all-girl.
- harvey9 1y ago
  Same pattern in UK state schools https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35419284 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35419284
  - leblancfg 1y ago
    Same comment as above. From your article: > there are some underlying factors skewing these results, such as: > * grammar schools are more likely to be single-sex > * co-educational schools have a higher proportion of poorer pupils > * girls are more likely to get good results
    - harvey9 1y ago
      The original statement which I replied to was an absolute position. These examples invalidate it. Also note that both of your comments show that people in a position to choose, are choosing single sex schools for their daughters and getting better outcomes on average. Lastly, while the article mentions some caveats around selective state schools, the other side of that is the UK has many single sex comprehensive schools. We should not ascribe too much weight to the caveat.