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? > Under a decade-old state law, California police are prohibited from sharing data from automated license plate readers with out-of-state and federal agencie

? > Under a decade-old state law, California police are prohibited from sharing data from automated license plate readers with out-of-state and federal agencies. Attorney General Rob Bonta affirmed that fact in a 2023 notice to police.

reverendsteveii 1y ago
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  - reverendsteveii 1y ago
    You're right, and I apologize. It's just difficult sometimes to not react to easily disprovable falsehoods designed to manufacture a political point. I'll do better in the future.
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aerostable_slug 1y ago
Very poorly written article. The law only prohibits the sharing of data if it's being used for immigration law enforcement. ICE doesn't just bust undocumented migrants, they also investigate all kinds of other crimes (like smuggled contraband), which is something the CHP would also presumably be involved with. It's perfectly legal to share data if it's not being used in an immigration case.
- ceejayoz 1y ago
  > The law only prohibits the sharing of data if it's being used for immigration law enforcement. Citation? The law does not appear to be this narrow. Per the article: "Under a decade-old state law, California police are prohibited from sharing data from automated license plate readers with out-of-state and federal agencies. Attorney General Rob Bonta affirmed that fact in a 2023 notice to police."
  - aerostable_slug 1y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Senate_Bill_54_(2017) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Senate_Bill_54_(201... This article is poorly written.
    - pjlk 1y ago
      SB 34 (2015) prohibits sharing the data with out of state agencies, period. https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/2023-dle-06.pdf https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/2023-dle-06.pdf "Accordingly, SB 34 does not permit California LEAs to share ALPR information with private entities or out-of-state or federal agencies, including out-of-state and federal law enforcement agencies."
    - danso 1y ago
      The article refers to Senate Bill 34, but you’ve posted a link to a Wikipedia article for Senate bill 54. How could the article’s content and assertions be made clearer? Should it have spelled out the numerals?
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tomhow 1y ago
It's not OK to attack others on HN like this, no matter how right you are or feel you are. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- reverendsteveii 1y ago
  You're right, and I apologize. It's just difficult sometimes to not react to easily disprovable falsehoods designed to manufacture a political point. I'll do better in the future.
  - tomhow 1y ago
    Many thanks. Please remember the guidelines ask us to "assume good faith", so we need to avoid making assumptions like "easily disprovable falsehoods designed to manufacture a political point". If a comment breaks the guidelines. you can flag it or report it to us via email at hn@ycombinator.com. But if it's something you just think is incorrect or a line or reasoning you disagree with, please just reply with a correction or an opposing argument.

aerostable_slug 1y ago

Very poorly written article. The law only prohibits the sharing of data if it's being used for immigration law enforcement. ICE doesn't just bust undocumented migrants, they also investigate all kinds of other crimes (like smuggled contraband), which is something the CHP would also presumably be involved with. It's perfectly legal to share data if it's not being used in an immigration case.

ceejayoz 1y ago
> The law only prohibits the sharing of data if it's being used for immigration law enforcement. Citation? The law does not appear to be this narrow. Per the article: "Under a decade-old state law, California police are prohibited from sharing data from automated license plate readers with out-of-state and federal agencies. Attorney General Rob Bonta affirmed that fact in a 2023 notice to police."
- aerostable_slug 1y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Senate_Bill_54_(2017) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Senate_Bill_54_(201... This article is poorly written.
  - pjlk 1y ago
    SB 34 (2015) prohibits sharing the data with out of state agencies, period. https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/2023-dle-06.pdf https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/2023-dle-06.pdf "Accordingly, SB 34 does not permit California LEAs to share ALPR information with private entities or out-of-state or federal agencies, including out-of-state and federal law enforcement agencies."
  - danso 1y ago
    The article refers to Senate Bill 34, but you’ve posted a link to a Wikipedia article for Senate bill 54. How could the article’s content and assertions be made clearer? Should it have spelled out the numerals?
  - 1y ago