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Hundred Rabbits – Low-tech living while sailing the world
- 0xCaponte 1y agoIt has been a while since I found a site this interesting, I have been reading it on and off for the past few days. As per their site: "Hundred Rabbits is an artist collective that documents low-tech solutions with the hope of building a more resilient future. We live and work aboard a 10 m sailboat named Pino in remote parts of the world to learn more about how technology degrades beyond the shores of the western world"
- themk 1y agoI highly recommend reading their north pacific crossing log book. https://100r.co/site/north_pacific_logbook.html https://100r.co/site/north_pacific_logbook.html
- kilpikaarna 1y agoThey used to do a monthly vlog too, I think it's still on YouTube.
- 0xCaponte 1y agoThank you, I will look into both of those. I eyed one of the logs, not sure which one, but more to see how it was shared and how extensive it was than for the content. Will give it a 2nd look.
- Lyngbakr 1y agoDoes anyone know if they're able to support themselves purely on donations via Patreon, etc., or if they need to do contract work, too?
- ryukoposting 1y agoI think the closest thing you'll get to an origin story is this: https://100r.co/site/why_a_boat.html https://100r.co/site/why_a_boat.html I'll defer to Occam's Razor: they probably had enough money at the outset that they don't have to worry about consistent month-to-month income. That's not meant to be a diss. Though, given their politics, I could understand if they took it that way.
- kilpikaarna 1y agoUnsure about the day-to-day situation, I imagine by now they make enough off of the stuff they put out as 100r that combined with very low expenses it's sustainable or close to. In past blog posts they mention taking on contract work for boat repairs.
- smikhanov 1y agoYeah, when you take the rent and many of the temptations of the big city lifestyle out of consideration, the cost of living gets surprisingly low.
- munificent 1y agoAnd kids.
- 0xCaponte 1y agoThey seem to be doing a lot of their maintenance themselves so that probably helps too. Still, I am curious about how much in average does the sailing life cost. They give some numbers here and there, so maybe someone more dedicated might be able to come up with a basic estimate.
- jgon 1y agoI believe that at least one of them worked for Meta before they embarked on this journey and I believe that they basically used the big tech money to FIRE. They've been able to them supplement and transition their income with the games and apps they've produced as well as related income from their 100rabbits work, as well as having minimized living expenses and no children. None of this is meant to be judgement or in any way demean the work they currently do, I love all of their stuff. Just trying to answer your question.
- egypturnash 1y agoahhh, thanks for that, that really identifies the elephant I've always felt lurking in the room every time I hear about these people.
- entaloneralie 1y agoHi! One of the two authors of the site up here, I just want to clarify before this becomes a rumour, I never worked at Meta, nor in big tech, neither have my partner. Prior to moving on the water, Rek worked in a 10 person animation studio in Japan(Toneplus), as an animator/illustrator, and me(Dev) worked as a designer at a 15 employees company Cerego(we were building smart.fm). Afterward we worked independently making little games, got nominated for the IGF that one time, but never worked directly for a company again. We budgeted the sailboat like this: 2 years worth of rent and related expense at our current rate, and so we could afford a 40k CAD$ sailboat. The way we looked at it was that if we managed to live aboard for over 2 years, we'd start making up the money we borrowed. It has been nearly 10 years now that we live aboard. We're super opened with our finances and how we made this possible, so just ask us instead of making stuff up :) Cheers!
- jaykru 1y agoThanks for dispelling the myth above. Very cool (and inspirational! as aspirant to the 100r lifestyle down the line) that you managed to do it without a big tech windfall :)
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- jvanderbot 1y agoI love the contrast in "Low tech/bootstrapped tech" this way vs, say, duskos.org. I call this "rabbits vs forth" tech bootstrappers. [1]. It's somewhat strange to me that their tech journey is so narrative and ends up with a VM stack, rather than any kind of salvaged / repurposed hard tech. But then again, I'm probably on the forth side of the spectrum. https://jodavaho.io/posts/rabbits-or-forth.html https://jodavaho.io/posts/rabbits-or-forth.html
- throwaway328 1y agoNice post. I hadn't noticed the "subtle suggestions" of donations myself, to be honest, but maybe I hadn't browsed around their pages enough. Anyway, if they do mention it, is it not a very far cry from the situation everywhere else? Youtubers begging, screaming, shouting, seducing, murmuring, doing the bug-eyes, repeating, cloying, getting emotionally heavy and forceful, for subscriptions, likes, and comments? Interspersed with violent sudden shifts to advertising products, etc. So it was a bit of a surprise to hear it mentioned like it might be bad. Are you surprised that the suggestions are so gentle? Or what
- qqqwerty 1y agoPerhaps OP can clarify, because I too read that as a snarky dig. Perhaps that wasn't their intention, but it felt off. The only place I saw a "subtle suggestion" for a donation was by clicking the "Support" link all the way at the bottom of the page. The site has probably the least intrusive monetization scheme one could implement without forgoing it entirely.
- 0xCaponte 1y agoSame here, after reading this I looked into multiple sites and articles and I only find that "Support" link in the footer. Maybe they changed things recently?
- jdiff 1y agoWith their stance of permacomputing, you don't think the two go hand in hand? A simple VM that can be implemented quickly on almost any hardware or underlying tech stack you can scrounge together? The only thing they'd be really against is designing new hardware to run Uxn "natively," which would seem to push you exclusively to reuse what you have.
- muzani 1y agoIt's remarkable how good you have to be at tech to be low tech and low maintenance.
- jdiff 1y agoNecessity is the mother of invention, and as I understand it from their writing, life on the sea is a constant maintenance battle against when the "ground" underneath your feet is trying to pull you in at every step, from corroding everything holding you together to the isolation driving extensive planning and maintenance for self sufficiency projects.
- rezmason 1y agohundredrabbits did that in reverse order, which is certainly rarer, but might also inform the rest of us about how to reverse that order ourselves.
- rwhaling 1y agoLove 100r! There aren't a ton of examples online, but their livecoding music software/language, ORCA, is a remarkable instrument. https://100r.co/site/orca.html https://100r.co/site/orca.html I posted a clip to bsky a few weeks back: https://bsky.app/profile/r.whal.ing/post/3lpyrm4vrqs2d https://bsky.app/profile/r.whal.ing/post/3lpyrm4vrqs2d And Allieway Audio made some great Youtube videos about ORCA too if people would like to learn how it works in more of a tutorial format: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaI_TuISSJE&t=446s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaI_TuISSJE&t=446s (I love the Dwarf Fortress background for this video, it absolutely nails the vibe)
- RickS 1y agoLove orca, and that's a really nice example. Messed with it a bit when it came out, and one toy project I'll share in the hopes that someone does it before me: an orca GUI that uses a larger grid with representative images in place of single char glyphs. I found that writing orca is fairly straightforward — you look up the sheet, find a thing and do it. It's reading that's the hurdle. An 8 char chunk that made perfect sense when I wrote it takes just as many lookups to read later. This probably gets easier over time, but I still think it's a cool design opportunity.
- rwhaling 1y agoYep absolutely! It reminds me of writing cryptic perl one-liners or something.
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- lovich 1y agoOh this is the same group behind ORCA? I should read up on them more if they have multiple projects like this
- bradly 1y agoI don't suppose you are the live coding Richard who was on Lopez Island earlier this month, are you?
- gadders 1y agoSpoiler alert: no actual rabbit content.
- Mr_Eri_Atlov 1y ago100 Rabbits is the most successful example of solarpunk I've ever seen. Tech with a focus on sustainability and creation. Love their work!
- agentultra 1y agoI recently got my basic cruising sailing license. And I also enjoy hacking on low-power, low-end salvaged computers that are repairable with a minimal set of tools and a manual. I'm hoping one day my tech journey will lead me to spending more time aboard and working on projects in this space. 100r and https://screenl.es https://screenl.es and dynamicland are huge inspirations.
- xrd 1y agoA friend asked me whether I was concerned about energy usage of AI. I didn't have a good answer. It feels inevitable. But, I love the write-up here on why the sailboat, and why UXN, because those two things are complementary when you are living in a sailboat and are thinking intimately about your power consumption. https://100r.co/site/why_a_boat.html https://100r.co/site/why_a_boat.html https://100r.co/site/uxn.html https://100r.co/site/uxn.html Seeing Devine at StrangeLoop last year was a treat (and took a lot of mental energy!)
- aosaigh 1y agoThis is a fascinating website which I look forward to exploring a bit more, along with the authors personal sites. Are there any other off-grid low-tech sites/projects/sites like this? I remember another interesting site that was being run off solar posted here on HN that went down when the batteries went out.
- QRY 1y agoTheir work has molded a lot of my views on technology, such a breath of fresh air when I first found out about them! They really inspired me to look at my own work and ask how to make it more resilient, how to decrease dependencies. From my experience, achieving provider independence boils down to: own your stack, work offline-first, test failure modes constantly. Been trying to get a setup going with NixOS + local AI + custom CLI tools for development work, and I never would have thought to pursue this sort of thing if I hadn't found these people. Great stuff! Oh and ORCA is a LOT of fun! Give it a shot if you're into sounddesign, or generative electronic music stuff: https://100r.co/site/orca.html https://100r.co/site/orca.html
- 0xCaponte 1y agoOffline solutions or not totally internet dependent ones can bring a lot of value to the users. So many things are webapps that could easily work offline. Sure, the web is easier and has more reach, but when sites, apps, or games vanish, I start to miss the 90-00 CD days. But again, what is best for the user is probably not the best business idea...
- hooverd 1y agoAh, another Blame! fan.
- rezmason 1y agoHere's two ports of their Blame!-inspired Myst-in-a-megastructure game, Hiversaires: https://hundredrabbits.itch.io/hiversaires https://hundredrabbits.itch.io/hiversaires https://git.sr.ht/~rabbits/hiversaires https://git.sr.ht/~rabbits/hiversaires
- fitsumbelay 1y agoI'm forever impressed by these folks' energy and creativity
- dang 1y agoRelated: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41131181 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41131181 - Aug 2024 (488 comments) Gimballed Stove - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39733829 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39733829 - March 2024 (12 comments) Weathering Software Winter - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34219654 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34219654 - Jan 2023 (28 comments) Internet in Paradise (2006) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32080305 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32080305 - July 2022 (18 comments) Artists are making tiny ROMs that will probably outlive us all - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31410838 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31410838 - May 2022 (1 comment) Off the Grid - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30031472 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30031472 - Jan 2022 (118 comments) Busy Doing Nothing - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26760803 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26760803 - April 2021 (6 comments) Working Off-Grid Efficiently - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25723819 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25723819 - Jan 2021 (142 comments) North Pacific Logbook - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24489257 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24489257 - Sept 2020 (7 comments) (I omitted threads about their software projects, even though those are super interesting: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=100r.co%20comments%3E0&sort=byDate&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...)
- poulpy123 1y agoWhere I discover that there people learning solresol in 2025
- rezmason 1y agoI'm honored to call these rabbits (and a decent portion of their community) my friends.
- periodjet 1y ago> Collapse won't be addressed by buying a Prius, signing a treaty, or turning off the air-conditioning. The biggest problem we face is a philosophical one: understanding that this civilization is already dead. The sooner we confront this problem, and the sooner we realize there's nothing we can do to save ourselves, the sooner we can get down to the hard work of adapting, with mortal humility, to our new reality. > This is why we are committed to fighting normative violence, fascism, colonialism, and white supremacy in all of its forms. To undermine the capitalist structure and its abusive scripts about human worth in relation to work, productivity, and ownership. To subvert oppressive gender norms and put in question the binary. To actively unlearn biased and colonial thinking. To look inside and face these parts of our darkness, personal and collective, and come out of it with more kindness and compassion.
- SlowTao 1y agoThe first act of revolution is contemplation.
- periodjet 1y agoI have the sinking feeling that you upvoters are actually upvoting the content of these quotes rather than my intention in quoting them, which was to highlight their absurdity. ;)
- emsimot 1y agoWhat's absurd? Sounds bang on
- vdupras 1y agoNo need to press, they've already got the sinking feeling going. It's going to need some time sinking where it's gotta sink :)
- komali2 1y agoIt seems your sinking feeling has been confirmed to be true. I'm in the camp that upvoted and am now confused why you're find the concepts absurd. I doubt this is your first encounter with a frank presentation of leftist thought, so it is the popularity that gives you the sinking feeling, or something about the ideology itself?
- Conscat 1y agoI think I first came across them from seeing #ORCΛ tag on Twitter, which I highly recommend peeking at. I love their website.
- Duanemclemore 1y agoWell I've been a big fan of 100r since I heard of them through the Future of Coding [0][1](and esoteric.codes [2]). BUT JUST NOW I'm kicking around the website again today and find out that Devine made the game Hiversaires way back in the day [3] which is a banger. So I guess I've been a fan for like 12 years. I'm very tempted to buy it again. 100r are also an inspiration that a different way of life and relationship with creativity and society are possible... so if I ever drop out definitely don't look for me doing permacomputing on a sailboat in coastal BC. Don't look for me - because I won't want to be found, ok thanks in advance? [0] https://futureofcoding.org/episodes/044 https://futureofcoding.org/episodes/044 [1] https://futureofcoding.org/episodes/045 https://futureofcoding.org/episodes/045 [2] https://esoteric.codes/blog/100-rabbits https://esoteric.codes/blog/100-rabbits [3] https://100r.co/site/hiversaires.html https://100r.co/site/hiversaires.html