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You're taking a nuanced view of fundamental thing and completely missing the point. Copyright is bad like inheritance is bad. Arguing about good and bad indust

You're taking a nuanced view of fundamental thing and completely missing the point. Copyright is bad like inheritance is bad. Arguing about good and bad industrialists is missing the point.

amarait 1y ago
I agree. Its very difficult to find people who agree with this
TeMPOraL 1y ago
What about compound interest? After all, inheritance is merely letting wealth continue to compound across generations. But at first glance, the same arguments against inheritance would apply against letting a single person earn interest.
- thedevilslawyer 1y ago
  Inheritance is about coming into the world unequal.
  - TeMPOraL 1y ago
    If that's the problem, we also need to ban society - cause one can be more prosperous than other, and it disadvantages those born into the latter.
    - thedevilslawyer 1y ago
      That's like your problem man. I'm not against society.
      - TeMPOraL 1y ago
        Only against nuance and consistency of beliefs.
  - pyuser583 1y ago
    So is citizenship. Should we do away with that as well?
hellojesus 1y ago
> Copyright is bad like inheritance is bad. How is inheritance bad? Imo, estate taxes are more immoral. Why should the state be allowed a cut of my private assets? Gift taxes are also immoral. Why should I have to pay taxes for giving away assets?
- thedevilslawyer 1y ago
  Why should we accept assets can be owned? Your life is a meaningless speck of time in eternity.
  - TeMPOraL 1y ago
    I suppose because we're wired this way. Can't think of any group or society that didn't have some notion of private property that wasn't just a huge (and brief) humanitarian tragedy.
    - hammock 1y ago
      Yes, private property enables human civilization, all the good and the bad. Before the agricultural revolution led to protected and exploited stores of grain, we were far smaller tribes of hunters and gatherers with far less technology
      - hellojesus 1y ago
        Those smaller tribes were continuously at war over resources... It's exactly the behavior we observe in nature whenever resource scarcity presents. A world without private property leads to a world of pure lawlessness. Sure... We could do that, but it would quickly devolve into forever warfare where only might wins, and even that for only fleetingly small timeslices. History's progression has proven that exploited workers still prefer to exist in that system vs one of continual peril.
  - hellojesus 1y ago
    My life, yes, but my genetic lifeline exists up to and including eternity if luck and good decision making are on the side of my generations of offspring. Let's consider the most basic form of ownership: that over one's body. By your logic, my life is a spec on the eternal timeline, so why make it a crime to harm or murder my physically?

You're taking a nuanced view of fundamental thing and completely missing the point. Copyright is bad like inheritance is bad. Arguing about good and bad industrialists is missing the point.

amarait 1y ago

I agree. Its very difficult to find people who agree with this

TeMPOraL 1y ago

What about compound interest? After all, inheritance is merely letting wealth continue to compound across generations. But at first glance, the same arguments against inheritance would apply against letting a single person earn interest.

thedevilslawyer 1y ago
Inheritance is about coming into the world unequal.
- TeMPOraL 1y ago
  If that's the problem, we also need to ban society - cause one can be more prosperous than other, and it disadvantages those born into the latter.
  - thedevilslawyer 1y ago
    That's like your problem man. I'm not against society.
    - TeMPOraL 1y ago
      Only against nuance and consistency of beliefs.
- pyuser583 1y ago
  So is citizenship. Should we do away with that as well?

hellojesus 1y ago

> Copyright is bad like inheritance is bad. How is inheritance bad? Imo, estate taxes are more immoral. Why should the state be allowed a cut of my private assets? Gift taxes are also immoral. Why should I have to pay taxes for giving away assets?

thedevilslawyer 1y ago
Why should we accept assets can be owned? Your life is a meaningless speck of time in eternity.
- TeMPOraL 1y ago
  I suppose because we're wired this way. Can't think of any group or society that didn't have some notion of private property that wasn't just a huge (and brief) humanitarian tragedy.
  - hammock 1y ago
    Yes, private property enables human civilization, all the good and the bad. Before the agricultural revolution led to protected and exploited stores of grain, we were far smaller tribes of hunters and gatherers with far less technology
    - hellojesus 1y ago
      Those smaller tribes were continuously at war over resources... It's exactly the behavior we observe in nature whenever resource scarcity presents. A world without private property leads to a world of pure lawlessness. Sure... We could do that, but it would quickly devolve into forever warfare where only might wins, and even that for only fleetingly small timeslices. History's progression has proven that exploited workers still prefer to exist in that system vs one of continual peril.
- hellojesus 1y ago
  My life, yes, but my genetic lifeline exists up to and including eternity if luck and good decision making are on the side of my generations of offspring. Let's consider the most basic form of ownership: that over one's body. By your logic, my life is a spec on the eternal timeline, so why make it a crime to harm or murder my physically?