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> drones and artillery are responsible for most kills. Because that's what they have. This situation is effective survivership bias, you need to consider what

> drones and artillery are responsible for most kills. Because that's what they have. This situation is effective survivership bias, you need to consider what modes of war they don't have access to. Take the first gulf war for reference. A coalition force bombed the shit out Iraq and then the ground forces were able to occupy territory relatively unimpeded. Russia and Ukraine cannot use the bomb the opposing military into oblivion because they just don't have those weapons. The US should not look to emulate a long drawn out drone war. It should look to incorporate drones as a cheaper alternative to where it would've used a missile but if you rewind the clock to the gulf war you're still going to see a bombing campaign first and then maybe some drone strikes from the ground offense.

lukan 1y ago
You know what russia also used? Lots of tanks and lots of bombers. But they stopped doing so aggressivly and rather use them from the second line, because the tanks got obliterated by drones and the bombers by anti air missile because Ukraine had modern antinaircraft missiles unlike Iraq..
- lesuorac 1y ago
  Iraq had anti-air and we struck those first (along with their airplanes) and then did normal air support since nothing was left to oppose it. Perhaps drones can work as a low cost projectile to take out anti-air capabilities instead of more expensive missiles and guided bombs. But again, be careful what takeaways are in a long drawn out war because that is generally not the goal when you attack another nation.
  - lukan 1y ago
    "generally not the goal when you attack another nation" It wasn't Putins goal either. But Ukraine turned out way stronger than expected. Because like I said, it had modern weapons unlike Iraq. And besides, attacking another nation is maybe also not the goal of supposedly peaceful nations in the first place.

lukan 1y ago

You know what russia also used? Lots of tanks and lots of bombers. But they stopped doing so aggressivly and rather use them from the second line, because the tanks got obliterated by drones and the bombers by anti air missile because Ukraine had modern antinaircraft missiles unlike Iraq..

lesuorac 1y ago
Iraq had anti-air and we struck those first (along with their airplanes) and then did normal air support since nothing was left to oppose it. Perhaps drones can work as a low cost projectile to take out anti-air capabilities instead of more expensive missiles and guided bombs. But again, be careful what takeaways are in a long drawn out war because that is generally not the goal when you attack another nation.
- lukan 1y ago
  "generally not the goal when you attack another nation" It wasn't Putins goal either. But Ukraine turned out way stronger than expected. Because like I said, it had modern weapons unlike Iraq. And besides, attacking another nation is maybe also not the goal of supposedly peaceful nations in the first place.