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Maybe first give them freedom. As long as their CVs are fake, their faces and experience are fake, and they're spying for their government, nobody should be hir

by mcv 1y ago

Maybe first give them freedom. As long as their CVs are fake, their faces and experience are fake, and they're spying for their government, nobody should be hiring them.

MangoToupe 1y ago
Eh we're all victims of where we were born. I'm not about to hold someone's state against them. Unless i suppose it's a certain state that didn't exist 100 years ago and had to forcibly move people to make room.
- confidantlake 1y ago
  Why make the exception for that state? None of the people applying for jobs were involved or even alive when it happened.
  - MangoToupe 1y ago
    Just like I don't blame people for hating me because I'm a symbol of ongoing colonization, I expect people to be ok if I blame them for ongoing atrocities carried out in their name in public with no shame or believable justification. If North Korea is just as bad, at least they're smart enough to not let me see evidence that invades my dreams.
- dennis_jeeves2 1y ago
  >Eh we're all victims of where we were born. It's a very profound statement (perhaps unintentionally so). Most of us wouldn't even be doing the work we do if we did not have to pay ransom money to our rulers. And then there are unwanted children and all of that...
- acdha 1y ago
  The problem isn’t the people but the government which controls every aspect of their lives. If I hire a remote worker from England, I don’t have much reason to worry that they’re secretly working for MI-5 and plotting to infiltrate our systems unless I work for a drug cartel or military supplier, and I have a high degree of confidence that if they engage in misconduct they’re subject to a real legal system. If you hire a North Korean, abuse is far more plausible since the invention of cryptocurrency has helped them immensely when it comes to getting and laundering ransoms – and with nobody actually in a country subject to the jurisdiction of a government which cares what you think, they’re going to see it as a safe operation even if it brings you considerable harm.
- Aurornis 1y ago
  > I'm not about to hold someone's state against them. You don’t understand. These people are working for the state. They’re not getting nice remote jobs to support their families. Infiltrating these companies is their job from the state of North Korea.
- OfficeChad 1y ago
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- mcv 1y ago
  Really? Even when everything about them is fake, and the most productive thing they're likely to do is spying on you? I also don't hold people's place of birth against them, but there are some very reasonable limits to that.

by mcv 1y ago

Maybe first give them freedom. As long as their CVs are fake, their faces and experience are fake, and they're spying for their government, nobody should be hiring them.

MangoToupe 1y ago

Eh we're all victims of where we were born. I'm not about to hold someone's state against them. Unless i suppose it's a certain state that didn't exist 100 years ago and had to forcibly move people to make room.

confidantlake 1y ago
Why make the exception for that state? None of the people applying for jobs were involved or even alive when it happened.
- MangoToupe 1y ago
  Just like I don't blame people for hating me because I'm a symbol of ongoing colonization, I expect people to be ok if I blame them for ongoing atrocities carried out in their name in public with no shame or believable justification. If North Korea is just as bad, at least they're smart enough to not let me see evidence that invades my dreams.
dennis_jeeves2 1y ago
>Eh we're all victims of where we were born. It's a very profound statement (perhaps unintentionally so). Most of us wouldn't even be doing the work we do if we did not have to pay ransom money to our rulers. And then there are unwanted children and all of that...
acdha 1y ago
The problem isn’t the people but the government which controls every aspect of their lives. If I hire a remote worker from England, I don’t have much reason to worry that they’re secretly working for MI-5 and plotting to infiltrate our systems unless I work for a drug cartel or military supplier, and I have a high degree of confidence that if they engage in misconduct they’re subject to a real legal system. If you hire a North Korean, abuse is far more plausible since the invention of cryptocurrency has helped them immensely when it comes to getting and laundering ransoms – and with nobody actually in a country subject to the jurisdiction of a government which cares what you think, they’re going to see it as a safe operation even if it brings you considerable harm.
Aurornis 1y ago
> I'm not about to hold someone's state against them. You don’t understand. These people are working for the state. They’re not getting nice remote jobs to support their families. Infiltrating these companies is their job from the state of North Korea.
OfficeChad 1y ago
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mcv 1y ago
Really? Even when everything about them is fake, and the most productive thing they're likely to do is spying on you? I also don't hold people's place of birth against them, but there are some very reasonable limits to that.