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I am originally from Europe as well. And still living there (not sure if that’s why you phrased it like that) but how many innovations from the us are really ad

I am originally from Europe as well. And still living there (not sure if that’s why you phrased it like that) but how many innovations from the us are really adding to the value of life vs just forcing eyeballs to screen. Linux came from Europe. A lot of open source does, see blender. I know VC money is sexy but does it add real value

surgical_fire 1y ago
Interestingly enough, I am not originally from Europe, but chose to move here over the US. In no small part because I utterly despise the VC fueled hustle culture winner takes all disruptive bullshit from the US. I don't want to be anywhere near that particular toxic wasteland.
- labster 1y ago
  Sir, are you aware that this very website is run by VCs as an advertisement for hustle culture? You are, in fact, “anywhere near” this particular vast wasteland.
  - surgical_fire 1y ago
    Yes, I am. I don't work for it, I just post shit here.
Esophagus4 1y ago
Huh? That is a strange way to dismiss the innovation from the country that brought to market: - the light bulb - the mass produced car - the airplane - the artificial heart - the gold standard in Covid vaccines - the personal computer - the smartphone - the internet - email - GPS - MRIs - consumer grade LLMs - the world’s largest public cloud providers - TCP/IP and BGP - the web browser - the most popular search, social media, and e-commerce companies in the world I know it feels good to say “but did they really make human kind better off?” and dismiss American innovation as another goofy VC-funded cash grab iPhone app; but the US is responsible for technology that has made the world better many times over. This mentality is why Europe will never replicate the success of the US technology sector. inb4 “but we don’t want that success!”
- queenkjuul 1y ago
  Lmao. Germany invented the car, most modern automotive technology (fuel injection, front wheel drive, all wheel drive, and more) were invented in Europe, the web was started in the UK, personal computers were also made in Europe by European companies to fairly widespread success, not to mention such fundamental innovations like engines and railroads No country has a monopoly on innovation, you're being absolutely ridiculous Eta: the tape recorder was invented in Europe. The compact cassette and compact disc were developed by Phillips to unimaginable commercial success. I'll keep coming back as i think of more :)
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  - arp242 1y ago
    There is no denying that the US has done great stuff over the last 100 years or so. I don't understand this weird flex from some Americans to always claim US is the best at everything at the exclusion of everyone else. Same with the second world war; there are Americans who seem to think they somehow single-handedly won that. My American ex said she had to recite the Pledge of Allegiance every day at school. Apparently this is law in most states. I suspect it might be related.
    - queenkjuul 1y ago
      I mean yeah we are forced to recite the pledge daily, and our elementary school history classes are full of stuff like "the US has invented every great thing you love! The Internet, cars, planes, TV, etc etc" I mean the comment i replied to basically comes across as a 11 year old who just aced their last history exam for the year. It's just tragic that most Americans grow into adults without ever learning anything more about the rest of the world, or realizing how narrow and biased their baseline education was
    - moomin 1y ago
      American support before the US entered was crucial on the western front. But it's generally agreed that the turning point of the war against the Nazis was the Battle of Stalingrad, which the US played no part in (other than occupying Nazi forces elsewhere). However, a great effect of the US joining was that the USSR didn't conquer France. The second half of the the twentieth century could have looked very different if the US had stayed out. In other words, it might not be really accurate to say the US beat Hitler, but it is accurate to say they halted Stalin's advance. It could be argued that D-Day won the Cold War, it just took a long time for that to play out.

surgical_fire 1y ago

Interestingly enough, I am not originally from Europe, but chose to move here over the US. In no small part because I utterly despise the VC fueled hustle culture winner takes all disruptive bullshit from the US. I don't want to be anywhere near that particular toxic wasteland.

labster 1y ago
Sir, are you aware that this very website is run by VCs as an advertisement for hustle culture? You are, in fact, “anywhere near” this particular vast wasteland.
- surgical_fire 1y ago
  Yes, I am. I don't work for it, I just post shit here.

Esophagus4 1y ago

Huh? That is a strange way to dismiss the innovation from the country that brought to market: - the light bulb - the mass produced car - the airplane - the artificial heart - the gold standard in Covid vaccines - the personal computer - the smartphone - the internet - email - GPS - MRIs - consumer grade LLMs - the world’s largest public cloud providers - TCP/IP and BGP - the web browser - the most popular search, social media, and e-commerce companies in the world I know it feels good to say “but did they really make human kind better off?” and dismiss American innovation as another goofy VC-funded cash grab iPhone app; but the US is responsible for technology that has made the world better many times over. This mentality is why Europe will never replicate the success of the US technology sector. inb4 “but we don’t want that success!”

queenkjuul 1y ago
Lmao. Germany invented the car, most modern automotive technology (fuel injection, front wheel drive, all wheel drive, and more) were invented in Europe, the web was started in the UK, personal computers were also made in Europe by European companies to fairly widespread success, not to mention such fundamental innovations like engines and railroads No country has a monopoly on innovation, you're being absolutely ridiculous Eta: the tape recorder was invented in Europe. The compact cassette and compact disc were developed by Phillips to unimaginable commercial success. I'll keep coming back as i think of more :)
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- arp242 1y ago
  There is no denying that the US has done great stuff over the last 100 years or so. I don't understand this weird flex from some Americans to always claim US is the best at everything at the exclusion of everyone else. Same with the second world war; there are Americans who seem to think they somehow single-handedly won that. My American ex said she had to recite the Pledge of Allegiance every day at school. Apparently this is law in most states. I suspect it might be related.
  - queenkjuul 1y ago
    I mean yeah we are forced to recite the pledge daily, and our elementary school history classes are full of stuff like "the US has invented every great thing you love! The Internet, cars, planes, TV, etc etc" I mean the comment i replied to basically comes across as a 11 year old who just aced their last history exam for the year. It's just tragic that most Americans grow into adults without ever learning anything more about the rest of the world, or realizing how narrow and biased their baseline education was
  - moomin 1y ago
    American support before the US entered was crucial on the western front. But it's generally agreed that the turning point of the war against the Nazis was the Battle of Stalingrad, which the US played no part in (other than occupying Nazi forces elsewhere). However, a great effect of the US joining was that the USSR didn't conquer France. The second half of the the twentieth century could have looked very different if the US had stayed out. In other words, it might not be really accurate to say the US beat Hitler, but it is accurate to say they halted Stalin's advance. It could be argued that D-Day won the Cold War, it just took a long time for that to play out.