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It worked for China, when they banned or restricted what Google, MS, Apple, Facebook can do there
by spacebeer 1y ago
It worked for China, when they banned or restricted what Google, MS, Apple, Facebook can do there
- ronsor 1y agoChina did it early and made growing their domestic industry a priority. Europe has not. This is like trying to close the gate after the horse has already escaped.
- spacebeer 1y agoSo not just EU, but any other region in the world, like Africa, South America, Central Asia should just give up and not try to make a business that could disrupt existing giants?
- togetheragainor 1y agoThey should try fostering more competence and competitiveness, rather than trying to regulate themselves to success.
- ClumsyPilot 1y agoMost US industries are owned by 1/2/3 oligopolies. The only way to compete is to create your own monopolies.
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- michaelscott 1y agoThey can, but OP's point is that a ban on US tech on its own will do nothing to produce a local Silicon Valley. It needs to go hand in hand with a massive push toward local entrepreneurial support, especially in places like Europe where the government exercises more control through legislation
- ryandrake 1y agoI don’t think you really need to incentivize businesses. If people want to start a business, they’re going to start one, regardless of whatever carrot you throw in front of them. “I’d love to start a business and make a profit, but the government just isn’t giving me enough incentive!” - said nobody ever.
- queenkjuul 1y agoAnd "every government software contract owned by a US company is about to be up for grabs" isn't an incentive on its own?
- tremon 1y agoEurope is regularly growing new tech startups, even online tech. The main problem is US vulture capital swooping in and buying it up as soon as it outgrows the local market, followed by everyone pretending it was developed in the US.
- moomin 1y agoAnd clearly some people believe it will work for America, given the TikTok ban.
- rrr_oh_man 1y agoA ban that is not being enforced or complied with is not a ban.
- remir 1y agoIt worked for China because they were in position of power. The US wasn't established in China and they needed Chinese users to grow their global user base and influence. Meanwhile, China had the wealth and power to say no and instead fund and develop their own homegrown tech equivalents. Europe doesn't have that same level of power. If tomorrow morning you banned Microsoft, Google, Apple, Amazon, Salesforce in Europe, you'd destroy their economy. What Europe needs to do is create the conditions for tech companies to emerge that could truly compete against US big tech. As long as European will prefer working for US corporation, there's no chance for Europe to compete. Simple as that.
- longfingers 1y agoI don't get your argument. Those companies provide overpriced crap to go along with domain specific code that is either open source or written by a more specialized company. If companies suddenly had to make intelligent choices and people would get fired for buying IBM, a bunch if companies would show up with better integrations than these since worse just isn't possible. If a rush to get anything non-US were the priority the market of converting Chinese solutions would already deliver better solutions.. US tech (of this office sort) looks a lot like US steel plants a couple decades after other nations built replacements, that's why it is comical that Europe is not only using it but often using the very worst of it.