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I don’t think awareness of caloric intake is the problem, there are standardized labels on most foods (especially the bad ones). Most people who are obese know

I don’t think awareness of caloric intake is the problem, there are standardized labels on most foods (especially the bad ones). Most people who are obese know that the calories make them overweight, but they still have the need to eat food — which is what makes obesity a result of addiction. Similarly meth addicts know that meth is bad for them, but they still do it anyways.

astrange 1y ago
How often do people control their own diets? That assumes they buy and cook all their own food, which is only true if you live on your own.
- __turbobrew__ 1y ago
  > How often do people control their own diets Maybe I live in a bubble, but I don’t put stuff in my body unwillingly, so yes I control my diet. It also isn’t rocket science, I know doughnuts have a shit ton of calories and vegetable shortening which will clkg your arteries, so I don’t eat doughnuts. I don’t have to look at the packaging. Maybe the missing part is a proper education on nutrition in school, but we live in the age of the internet. All the information is there, you can get meal plans, you can figure out what foods are more likely to put you at risk. Again, I don’t believe awareness is an issue. People know that chips and doughnuts are bad, but they eat them anyways because they are addicted to food which is engineered to be addictive.
  - astrange 1y ago
    > Maybe I live in a bubble, but I don’t put stuff in my body unwillingly, so yes I control my diet. The example I'm thinking of is cultures with near-religious obligations to listen to their parents. Like Italian-Americans all act like they'd die if they ever ate less than all of their grandmother's cooking or ever changed any of the traditional recipes. Even though the recipes were all invented in 1970 in NYC and have inhumanly large amounts of carbs.
- const_cast 1y ago
  You don't have to - all the fast food menus I've seen contain caloric information. Right on the menu. People still eat it. Somewhat similar to how a carton of cigs contains a big warning that says "THIS WILL KILL YOU DO NOT SMOKE THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES" Welp...
paul7986 1y ago
Sure and I didnt say it would replace Ozempics rather it's a substitute that would help a portion of the population. Yet majority of all people have no idea the amount of calories they eat daily. Im sure being shown this automagically will be valuable data to all people just how they choose to use this optional feature to make changes or not.
dragonwriter 1y ago
> which is what makes obesity a result of addiction. Obesity is not (in general) a result of addiction.

astrange 1y ago

How often do people control their own diets? That assumes they buy and cook all their own food, which is only true if you live on your own.

__turbobrew__ 1y ago
> How often do people control their own diets Maybe I live in a bubble, but I don’t put stuff in my body unwillingly, so yes I control my diet. It also isn’t rocket science, I know doughnuts have a shit ton of calories and vegetable shortening which will clkg your arteries, so I don’t eat doughnuts. I don’t have to look at the packaging. Maybe the missing part is a proper education on nutrition in school, but we live in the age of the internet. All the information is there, you can get meal plans, you can figure out what foods are more likely to put you at risk. Again, I don’t believe awareness is an issue. People know that chips and doughnuts are bad, but they eat them anyways because they are addicted to food which is engineered to be addictive.
- astrange 1y ago
  > Maybe I live in a bubble, but I don’t put stuff in my body unwillingly, so yes I control my diet. The example I'm thinking of is cultures with near-religious obligations to listen to their parents. Like Italian-Americans all act like they'd die if they ever ate less than all of their grandmother's cooking or ever changed any of the traditional recipes. Even though the recipes were all invented in 1970 in NYC and have inhumanly large amounts of carbs.
const_cast 1y ago
You don't have to - all the fast food menus I've seen contain caloric information. Right on the menu. People still eat it. Somewhat similar to how a carton of cigs contains a big warning that says "THIS WILL KILL YOU DO NOT SMOKE THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES" Welp...

paul7986 1y ago

Sure and I didnt say it would replace Ozempics rather it's a substitute that would help a portion of the population. Yet majority of all people have no idea the amount of calories they eat daily. Im sure being shown this automagically will be valuable data to all people just how they choose to use this optional feature to make changes or not.

dragonwriter 1y ago

> which is what makes obesity a result of addiction. Obesity is not (in general) a result of addiction.