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The title seems ominous but the article itself is about how a fancy restaurant will go out of it's way to make you feel special. They're perusing your social me
by prasadjoglekar 1y ago
The title seems ominous but the article itself is about how a fancy restaurant will go out of it's way to make you feel special. They're perusing your social media for clues.
In the past your spouse or kid would call and let the maitre'd know it was special; now I guess it's a job for someone on staff.
- fnord77 1y agoauthor doesn't understand the definition of "vetting" which is par for the course for sfgate/chronicle
- steveBK123 1y agoUntil some YC backed SaaS LLM AI automates the process and it becomes table stakes. Then they find other uses for it..
- hungmung 1y agoI'm waiting for fully automated writing style recognition that finds all your throwaway accounts and sends you a shakedown letter.
- satvikpendem 1y agoReproducing Hacker News writing style fingerprinting, by antirez of Redis fame https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43705632 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43705632
- steveBK123 1y agoIt’s really great that the most successful people in Silicon Valley disregard the social implications of their work. Arguably that’s what makes them so successful.
- satvikpendem 1y agoThis was possible before, as the post shows with a previous HN post, nothing to do with Silicon Valley.
- theideaofcoffee 1y ago'Silicon Valley' here is just proxy for 'self-delusional tech glitterati with a cheap veneer of enlightenment'.
- markus_zhang 1y agoI suspect HN is already checking IP.
- potato3732842 1y agoI'm waiting for an AI bot that follows everyone around and points out ideological inconsistencies. "funny, you were all fine with this when X was doing it as evidenced in <cites specific comments>, care to explain why this is different?".
- closewith 1y agoUnlawful in the EU, thankfully. The US seriously needs to revaluate it's data protection laws.
- chasil 1y agoI'm planning to move to Columbia. I know that high-end restaurants there get extreme in service. That can make me uncomfortable in certain contexts.
- op00to 1y agoLike Columbia, MD? Or the university?
- chasil 1y agoColumbia, South America. https://archive.ph/o/S25jP/https://cdn.digg.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/23170946/01_Cost-of-a-Comfortable-Retirement-Around-the-World.png https://archive.ph/o/S25jP/https://cdn.digg.com/wp-content/u...
- op00to 1y agoColombia. You may need to spell it correctly before you move there. :)
- hn_user82179 1y agothat's a neat map, thanks for sharing
- AStonesThrow 1y ago[dead]
- brookst 1y agoAre we really doing the slippery slope dangers of a high end restaurant going out of their way to delight?
- atmavatar 1y agoIf they're already vetting your social media, they can also start refusing service based upon religious or political leanings displayed in your posts. No slope (slippery or otherwise) is required. Imagine making reservations for a family dinner but being turned away at the door because the restaurant found a post (in support/critical) of Trump or one of his policies. The restaurant would be completely within its rights to do so, even if it seems a stupid and pointless business decision to cut clientele in half.
- tptacek 1y agoSo, yes, is your answer to the preceding question.
- satvikpendem 1y agoIt's funny when someone ends up proving your point in their attempt to refute it.
- ChrisMarshallNY 1y agoI have a friend that just got kicked out of his apartment, because his landlord learned that he has a very different political leaning. To answer the inevitable questions, he was on a month-to-month lease, and his landlord is a cop, so yeah, he’s screwed. He’s also very politically outspoken on social media. I have suggested, to no avail, that he tone it down. This may do the trick. There’s a price to be paid for being on stage, all the time. I wonder how many people have lost (or failed to get) jobs, because of stuff they’ve posted on LinkedIn (or here). I know a couple of teachers lost jobs, because they posted pictures of themselves, on vacation, with drinks in their hands.
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- CoastalCoder 1y ago> and it becomes table stakes. I see what you did there.
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- jjmarr 1y agoReminds me of The Menu.
- satvikpendem 1y agoReminds me of The Bear which has scenes like this. It is quite common in higher end restaurant, like those at the Michelin level to customize the experience for each guest (at least to a small degree, not necessarily changing out the entire menu for them).
- pbh101 1y agoWhich itself draws from the book ‘Unreasonable Hospitality’ and iirc the Chicago restaurant ‘Ever’ featured in the show applies this approach.
- brookst 1y agoAnd the Four Seasons has been recognized for this for many years; it was a case study in business school for me.
- tptacek 1y ago(The "Ever" in "The Bear" is a composite of many restaurants).
- pbh101 1y agoGood point :) the show’s Ever definitely utilizes it but my understanding is the real one does too.
- mingus88 1y agoThe Bear is literally the lead-in paragraph for the article
- satvikpendem 1y agoYes, that is why I mentioned it.
- dang 1y agoThanks! We've changed the title above to use a more representative phrase from the article.
- throawayonthe 1y agoit's now a vaguer title, perhaps even more ominous because personally my immediate thought was "oh they're collaborating with advertising companies aren't they" before actually clicking on the article
- mousethatroared 1y agoStill creepy.
- chasil 1y agoRestaurants concentrate too hard on the things that are not food. If a restaurateur and/or the head chef has any pretensions of greatness, then they must master two French dishes, Coq au Vin, and Boeuf Bourguignon. Before investing in anything else, these are tollgates.
- munificent 1y agoI respect that you at least literally admit that you are gatekeeping.
- chasil 1y agoIt is a certain gatekeeping that demands some quantity of flexibility in culinary arts.
- vlovich123 1y agoTo me flexibility in culinary arts would mean that you know dishes from multiple cuisines, not just two dishes from French cuisine.
- briangriffinfan 1y agoI'm willing to believe those two dishes represent a wide set of skills and knowledge that would generalize to being a generally skillful cook.
- vlovich123 1y agoAs someone else noted, I don’t believe these skills would translate to sushi making and we’re talking about chefs here not cooks.
- briangriffinfan 1y agoI think someone who knows those dishes like the back of their hand would make significantly better sushi than me. On the other hand, I'm willing to bet that someone who just makes burgers probably can make sushi about as well as I could.