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The current administration has already removed the requirement for federal police forces to wear body cameras. As well as made statements (but little action so

The current administration has already removed the requirement for federal police forces to wear body cameras. As well as made statements (but little action so far) to federalize the police force to be under the jurisdiction of the DOJ. Everything being recorded may not be the case very soon. Sorry, I’d get sources but I just woke up, I’ll edit this later with them.

jameshart 1y ago
If it’s not being recorded, what would this AI summary be based on?
- brookst 1y ago
  “You are a helpful agent. Police officers will describe an interaction to you and you will write a report that highlights the appropriateness of the officer’s actions, omitting anything that might indicate they acted improperly”
  - jameshart 1y ago
    Are people missing that this AI is being offered by a body cam company?
    - istjohn 1y ago
      Why do you think that's relevant?
      - jameshart 1y ago
        Because people seem to be raising a concern that this AI's summaries of police interactions would be relied upon as a substitute for bodycam footage, with people citing regulations absolving police of obligations to record interactions in the first place. But this AI is being pushed by Axon, who sells bodycam systems. Do you think they would be touting this as a replacement for bodycams?
        pseudalopex 1y ago
        The scenario was not Axon would persuade police forces to stop using body cameras. The scenario was police forces would decided to stop using body cameras. And the concerns about this use of generative AI are not about the vendor's identity.
    - anigbrowl 1y ago
      They are not a body cam company. They sell all sorts of equipment to police, including but not limited to body cams. They used to be named Taser international (guess why!) and later branched out into body cameras. They will happily service any law enforcement client, with or without body cams. https://www.axon.com/products https://www.axon.com/products
- pjc50 1y ago
  You describe the conviction you want to achieve and the AI makes up a report to secure that.
  - jjtheblunt 1y ago
    They keep all the video in cloud servers, and everyone sends to be ignoring that. I know from being inside Axon
    - buran77 1y ago
      > > If it’s not being recorded > They keep all the video I guess you could say that Axon servers keep every single video that was never recorded because the camera was off. It's very space efficient too.
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hughesjj 1y ago
I mean, already at the local cop level "forgetting" to turn the body cam on or only releasing the video (at least, quickly) if it puts the officer in a positive light seems to be the norm * https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/officers-body-camera-went-dark-during-key-moment-of-patrick-lyoyas-death https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/officers-body-camera-wen... * https://www.nbcmiami.com/investigations/body-cameras-turned-off-during-miami-pd-arrest/2193518/ https://www.nbcmiami.com/investigations/body-cameras-turned-... * UK but it's the same discussion https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66809642 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66809642 * https://www.wbrc.com/2025/07/12/coroner-completes-report-jabari-peoples-death-release-delayed-family-prepares-funeral/ https://www.wbrc.com/2025/07/12/coroner-completes-report-jab... * https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/release-of-police-bodycam-footage-can-take-hours-to-months/ https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/release-of-police-bodycam-...

jameshart 1y ago

If it’s not being recorded, what would this AI summary be based on?

brookst 1y ago
“You are a helpful agent. Police officers will describe an interaction to you and you will write a report that highlights the appropriateness of the officer’s actions, omitting anything that might indicate they acted improperly”
- jameshart 1y ago
  Are people missing that this AI is being offered by a body cam company?
  - istjohn 1y ago
    Why do you think that's relevant?
    - jameshart 1y ago
      Because people seem to be raising a concern that this AI's summaries of police interactions would be relied upon as a substitute for bodycam footage, with people citing regulations absolving police of obligations to record interactions in the first place. But this AI is being pushed by Axon, who sells bodycam systems. Do you think they would be touting this as a replacement for bodycams?
      - pseudalopex 1y ago
        The scenario was not Axon would persuade police forces to stop using body cameras. The scenario was police forces would decided to stop using body cameras. And the concerns about this use of generative AI are not about the vendor's identity.
  - anigbrowl 1y ago
    They are not a body cam company. They sell all sorts of equipment to police, including but not limited to body cams. They used to be named Taser international (guess why!) and later branched out into body cameras. They will happily service any law enforcement client, with or without body cams. https://www.axon.com/products https://www.axon.com/products
pjc50 1y ago
You describe the conviction you want to achieve and the AI makes up a report to secure that.
- jjtheblunt 1y ago
  They keep all the video in cloud servers, and everyone sends to be ignoring that. I know from being inside Axon
  - buran77 1y ago
    > > If it’s not being recorded > They keep all the video I guess you could say that Axon servers keep every single video that was never recorded because the camera was off. It's very space efficient too.
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hughesjj 1y ago

I mean, already at the local cop level "forgetting" to turn the body cam on or only releasing the video (at least, quickly) if it puts the officer in a positive light seems to be the norm * https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/officers-body-camera-went-dark-during-key-moment-of-patrick-lyoyas-death https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/officers-body-camera-wen... * https://www.nbcmiami.com/investigations/body-cameras-turned-off-during-miami-pd-arrest/2193518/ https://www.nbcmiami.com/investigations/body-cameras-turned-... * UK but it's the same discussion https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66809642 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66809642 * https://www.wbrc.com/2025/07/12/coroner-completes-report-jabari-peoples-death-release-delayed-family-prepares-funeral/ https://www.wbrc.com/2025/07/12/coroner-completes-report-jab... * https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/release-of-police-bodycam-footage-can-take-hours-to-months/ https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/release-of-police-bodycam-...