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Oh no, instead consumers pick products because of advertising. What an improvement.

by pyrale 1y ago

onion2k 1y ago
Consumers pick _largely_ based on cost and features, with a things like brand, ethics, and environment coming second. However, consumers can only pick an option from choices they've heard of. Advertising is about getting into the list (and influencing choice a bit by demonstrating the brand image); the product itself still has to a good choice for the customer to make a purchase.
- account42 1y ago
  > with a things like brand, ethics, and environment coming second I don't think that's true at all - usually brand comes first and ethics are not even considered. > the product itself still has to a good choice for the customer to make a purchase Not at all, the consumer only needs to be made to believe that it's a good choice which is very far from being the same thing.
brookst 1y ago
Being prescriptive about human nature will always be frustrating. You and I can argue about what consumers “should” do but the reality is they will always pick the highest perceived benefit at the lowest perceived cost, even if deeper technical knowledge or improved ideological perspective would change those choices.
- pyrale 1y ago
  I don't really mind about what people should do. Cats should probably not kill birds when they aren't hungry. But my opinion has no bearing on cats. My lament is more about the current situation and our apparent inability to escape it. In this case, I may also be annoyed a bit about your rant on ideologues. Just because people don't make decisions based on their ideology doesn't mean they don't make decisions based on ideology.
- GoblinSlayer 1y ago
  They have nothing to pick, google already picked chrome for them.
- account42 1y ago
  And this is exactly why ads should be illegal in a capitalist society.
- smaudet 1y ago
  Yes, and so you should always assume every (large) company is lying through it's teeth as hard as it can, because it is in their best interest to confuddle the consumer as much as possible... It's not ideaology to want things to work. Last time IE lost because it lost sight of the fact that it was utter dogshitte. Chrome is now utter dogshitte, users will (eventually) be unable to ignore that...

Oh no, instead consumers pick products because of advertising. What an improvement.

by pyrale 1y ago

Oh no, instead consumers pick products because of advertising. What an improvement.

Consumers pick _largely_ based on cost and features, with a things like brand, ethics, and environment coming second. However, consumers can only pick an option from choices they've heard of. Advertising is about getting into the list (and influencing choice a bit by demonstrating the brand image); the product itself still has to a good choice for the customer to make a purchase.

account42 1y ago
> with a things like brand, ethics, and environment coming second I don't think that's true at all - usually brand comes first and ethics are not even considered. > the product itself still has to a good choice for the customer to make a purchase Not at all, the consumer only needs to be made to believe that it's a good choice which is very far from being the same thing.

brookst 1y ago

Being prescriptive about human nature will always be frustrating. You and I can argue about what consumers “should” do but the reality is they will always pick the highest perceived benefit at the lowest perceived cost, even if deeper technical knowledge or improved ideological perspective would change those choices.

pyrale 1y ago
I don't really mind about what people should do. Cats should probably not kill birds when they aren't hungry. But my opinion has no bearing on cats. My lament is more about the current situation and our apparent inability to escape it. In this case, I may also be annoyed a bit about your rant on ideologues. Just because people don't make decisions based on their ideology doesn't mean they don't make decisions based on ideology.
GoblinSlayer 1y ago
They have nothing to pick, google already picked chrome for them.
account42 1y ago
And this is exactly why ads should be illegal in a capitalist society.
smaudet 1y ago
Yes, and so you should always assume every (large) company is lying through it's teeth as hard as it can, because it is in their best interest to confuddle the consumer as much as possible... It's not ideaology to want things to work. Last time IE lost because it lost sight of the fact that it was utter dogshitte. Chrome is now utter dogshitte, users will (eventually) be unable to ignore that...