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What's weird is not that companies would want to try to be greedy, but how society has socially normalized not even reading important, binding legal contracts w

What's weird is not that companies would want to try to be greedy, but how society has socially normalized not even reading important, binding legal contracts with real consequences, and just signing them without much, if any, serious consideration of the ramifications of what we're agreeing to.

atq2119 1y ago
What's actually weird is how society normalized binding contracts that are far too long to be reasonably read by the people they are supposed to be binding to. A well functioning legal system would throw out everything in those contracts on that basis alone.
- potato3732842 1y ago
  Because it doesn't actually matter. A single click EULA won't hold up in court if they've actually done wrong. And even without a single click EULA you still weren't gonna win a coin toss lawsuit against a megacorp. So for most people it's a wash.
avidiax 1y ago
If you buy a latte at a coffee chain and you use their app to pay, you've probably agreed to a hundred page agreement that they reserve the right to change at any time, and which subjects you to binding arbitration, perhaps even if you decide to hand the barista a $10 note. Disney recently tried to use the terms and conditions of a Disney+ subscription to get out of a claim arising from their theme parks. Automation has made it so easy to bury society in legally binding click-through contracts. It's very unclear what innovation or business model the general public would be deprived of if we severely limited click-through agreements, or even wet signature contracts below certain thresholds.
- anonym29 1y ago
  I don't have Apple's app store or the Google Play Store on my phone. When it comes to Dr's offices and the like asking me to download an app, I just tell them I don't have a smartphone and don't want one.

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What's weird is not that companies would want to try to be greedy, but how society has socially normalized not even reading important, binding legal contracts w

by anonym29 1y ago

atq2119 1y ago
What's actually weird is how society normalized binding contracts that are far too long to be reasonably read by the people they are supposed to be binding to. A well functioning legal system would throw out everything in those contracts on that basis alone.
- potato3732842 1y ago
  Because it doesn't actually matter. A single click EULA won't hold up in court if they've actually done wrong. And even without a single click EULA you still weren't gonna win a coin toss lawsuit against a megacorp. So for most people it's a wash.
avidiax 1y ago
If you buy a latte at a coffee chain and you use their app to pay, you've probably agreed to a hundred page agreement that they reserve the right to change at any time, and which subjects you to binding arbitration, perhaps even if you decide to hand the barista a $10 note. Disney recently tried to use the terms and conditions of a Disney+ subscription to get out of a claim arising from their theme parks. Automation has made it so easy to bury society in legally binding click-through contracts. It's very unclear what innovation or business model the general public would be deprived of if we severely limited click-through agreements, or even wet signature contracts below certain thresholds.
- anonym29 1y ago
  I don't have Apple's app store or the Google Play Store on my phone. When it comes to Dr's offices and the like asking me to download an app, I just tell them I don't have a smartphone and don't want one.