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Where are the right-wing scientists? Everyone's on the left like me
- 123yawaworht456 1y agoin China, all scientists are pro-CCP. in Russia, all scientists are pro-Putin.
- cratermoon 1y agoIn America, we seem to be heading to a day when all scientists are pro-Trump
- cyberge99 1y agoScience has either tested tested something rigorously or it hasn’t. I don’t think that 99% of the world scientists thinkanmade climate change is real matters which country they originate.
- queenkjuul 1y agoI guarantee not all Chinese scientists are pro CCP
- 123yawaworht456 1y agothat was exactly my point.
- jfengel 1y agoI'm not sure I understand that. In Russia and China, the scientists at least claim to be pro-government. In the US, the left wing is against the current government. Are you saying that there are a lot of right-wing scientists, but that they're afraid of the government? That wouldn't make sense. Maybe a lot of right-wing scientists exist but don't wish to speak out for some other reason, but it's certainly not the government.
- 123yawaworht456 1y agoI was trying to say that people whose values don't fit in the Overton window keep their opinions to themselves. In China, it's contempt for the CCP, in Russia, it's contempt for Putin, and in the US, it's contempt for DEI/ESG/etc. in all three countries, dissent is an informal crime.
- Apreche 1y agoBeing a scientist requires adherence to evidence based epistemology. That is inherently antithetical to right wing ideology.
- bell-cot 1y agoGo back 150 years, and you could make a similar argument about scientists needing to be straight white male Christians, from one of a rather small number of countries. Probably with some talk about "one must recognize the ultimate authority of God over mortal man, before one can hope to see past one's own mortal failings, and comprehend even the most modest details our Creator's world...".
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- Apreche 1y agoYes. Science was wrong for a long long time. Science being mostly correct is a relatively recent development, and one of the causes of this problem.
- IAmBroom 1y agoNo. The "scientific institutions" were mostly wrong. "Science" is a philosophical methodology, and is neither right nor wrong. However, using science tends to produce highly reliable outcomes (which are implicit in the very nature of the method, but that's a different issue). Scientists are often very wrong. Lamarck was a very wrong biological theorist. Schottky was very right about tunneling electrons, but a rabid racist.
- burnt-resistor 1y agoReality has a left-wing bias.
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- drewcoo 1y agoI actually read the article. That's no left. And I say that despite her being in several protected classes. Leftists like me try to nudge centrists like her to be more left-leaning, but they refuse. Usually with the argument that a middle stance is better and more accepting (hey - compromise!) but never with the argument that meeting the far right in the middle accomplishes the same thing. Hypocrites. Also, FWIW, "centrists" here means "moderate right wing folks."
- readthenotes1 1y ago"Leftists like me [you]" like to reinforce the "leftists will eat each other" trope. From the article 'Al-Shamahi, 41, who describes her politics as “wokey-progressive — definitely left-wing”, ' Is it because she's British, from a Muslim background, a Yemeni family, or just that she's a woman that's she's not leftist enough for you?
- locopati 1y agoNone of those categories make one a leftist. Progressive leftist policies make one a leftist. And, seeing someone supposedly leftist saying "what's missing here is more right wing views" makes me think hmmm maybe she's more of a centrist than a leftist. Looking at the past 25 years alone in the US, the right has been anti-science, anti-education, anti-free speech (unless it agrees with their view of the world).
- dinfinity 1y agoIf you've read the article as you claim, please quote where she says anything that shows she is anything but a leftist. The point she is making is about not falling into the trap of tribalism. I am very much to the left (pro UBI and nationalization of key industries), but I am regularly disheartened by the primitive hostility and immediate irrational dismissal of people and ideas on the right (or even 'not far enough on the left'). That (we think) they're wrong doesn't justify treating them like shit and doesn't improve the discourse.
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- bell-cot 1y ago> Trust in science has been eroded because the field is so dominated by left-wing academics, a leading evolutionary biologist has warned. > Ella Al-Shamahi, presenter of the BBC’s science series Human, ... says ... Given her specialty, perhaps she should look into selective pressures against non-left-wing scientists, in recent-decades Western academia? Populations do evolve to better fit their environments and all...
- yablak 1y agoWonder what the distribution is like among BYU profs/postdocs... And how respected their work is within their fields?
- elp 1y agohttps://archive.ph/r1lQd https://archive.ph/r1lQd
- karmakurtisaani 1y agoThe only reason we have to suffer through seeing concepts like "right-wing" or "left-wing" scientists, is because the right (in the US) has politicized science. Climate change is happening -> left wing propaganda! Homosexuality is abundant in nature -> .. Plus other things that I fear are going to start flame wars, since even among us there are people who won't accept the long standing scientific consensus.