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Please, the EU is trying to ban encryption at this very moment, to say the that EU is pro privacy is a bit of a joke really. Privacy from companies maybe, priv

Please, the EU is trying to ban encryption at this very moment, to say the that EU is pro privacy is a bit of a joke really. Privacy from companies maybe, privacy from governments and cops, certainly not.

olddustytrail 1y ago
What did your MEP say when you complained to them about it?
- Eavolution 1y ago
  Mine said the party was taking it very seriously and it's clearly something that is important to me. I trust them to do exactly nothing.
const_cast 1y ago
The EU is both pro-privacy and anti-privacy. In many ways, they're ahead of the US - you can opt out of more telemetry, more advertising, more tracking. Good. But then the encryption stuff - bad. Informed consent laws - good. Laws about third-party tracking - good. So it's some good, some bad. But, on the topic of encryption, it's not like the US is pure here either.
kergonath 1y ago
> the EU is trying to ban encryption at this very moment, to say the that EU is pro privacy is a bit of a joke really. The EU is not a monolith. There are many people pushing in many different directions. Sometimes the result is good, sometimes less so.
- harvey9 1y ago
  After the pushing is done then the resulting regulations are a monolith
delusional 1y ago
> privacy from governments and cops It is very much not clear to me that you should have privacy from governments or cops. Aren't the whole point of the government and cops that they are the institutions we have created to entrust with this access?
- rdm_blackhole 1y ago
  Please feel free to set up a spyware on your phone that records every image you send, every text and email you write and saves all this data somewhere that you will never have access to and for an indefinite amount of time. That is exactly what the EU is trying to do with the Chat Control law. Targeted law enforcement access to some data is not what is being discussed here. We are talking about 24/7/365 mass surveillance without warrants and without the suspicion of any crime committed.
- int_19h 1y ago
  Given that Europe specifically has a very sordid history with the use of data collected by government to genocide literally millions of people, no, I don't think it can be entrusted with such access.

olddustytrail 1y ago

What did your MEP say when you complained to them about it?

Eavolution 1y ago
Mine said the party was taking it very seriously and it's clearly something that is important to me. I trust them to do exactly nothing.

const_cast 1y ago

The EU is both pro-privacy and anti-privacy. In many ways, they're ahead of the US - you can opt out of more telemetry, more advertising, more tracking. Good. But then the encryption stuff - bad. Informed consent laws - good. Laws about third-party tracking - good. So it's some good, some bad. But, on the topic of encryption, it's not like the US is pure here either.

kergonath 1y ago

> the EU is trying to ban encryption at this very moment, to say the that EU is pro privacy is a bit of a joke really. The EU is not a monolith. There are many people pushing in many different directions. Sometimes the result is good, sometimes less so.

harvey9 1y ago
After the pushing is done then the resulting regulations are a monolith

delusional 1y ago

> privacy from governments and cops It is very much not clear to me that you should have privacy from governments or cops. Aren't the whole point of the government and cops that they are the institutions we have created to entrust with this access?

rdm_blackhole 1y ago
Please feel free to set up a spyware on your phone that records every image you send, every text and email you write and saves all this data somewhere that you will never have access to and for an indefinite amount of time. That is exactly what the EU is trying to do with the Chat Control law. Targeted law enforcement access to some data is not what is being discussed here. We are talking about 24/7/365 mass surveillance without warrants and without the suspicion of any crime committed.
int_19h 1y ago
Given that Europe specifically has a very sordid history with the use of data collected by government to genocide literally millions of people, no, I don't think it can be entrusted with such access.