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It's strange to reward slower contestants in sports.
by Scarblac 1y ago
It's strange to reward slower contestants in sports.
- sim7c00 1y agoyeah, otherwise good ppl will do bad in qualifiers to get good position...
- koolba 1y agoReminds me of the final boss in Smash Bros. If you purposefully let him whip you at first, the adaptive play would nerf him enough to let you easily finish him.
- pfortuny 1y agoIIRC Ecclestone suggested getting rid of qualifiers and just putting the F1 cars n the inverse order of their last race. This idea was in order to get more overtakes (the best parts of F1 races). I think it would be great.
- bravesoul2 1y agoMakes sense. More interest in F1. More money for Bernie.
- philistine 1y ago1. Ecclestone has been out of the sport for nearly a decade. 2. A race weekend is a three-day affair, with tickets sold for each day. What do you do on Saturday if there are no qualifs?
- herodoturtle 1y ago> What do you do on Saturday if there are no qualifs? Can you imagine Monaco with no quali >_<
- Scarblac 1y agoThree races per weekend?
- andrepd 1y agoF1 is dead boring anyway, you're more there for the ambience and the VIP lounges and whatnot.
- retroflexzy 1y agoThere was a period in World Rally Championship history when the top drivers would manipulate the starting order for the following day's stages by intentionally slowing down before the end of the stage. It was bizarre to watch teams intentionally give up 10+ second margins when stage wins can come down to half-second gaps.
- seabass-labrax 1y agoIn the BTCC, there was a similar situation for a while: in one of the races, the best-perfoming half of the pack would start at the back of the grid, and the worst-performing half at the front of the grid - but in-order within the two groups. However, since 2006 there has been some randomness added to the grid positioning, which makes attempting to manipulate it a risky business.
- conradev 1y agoIn F1 they also introduced DRS in 2011 to get more overtakes
- bell-cot 1y agoTrack & Field races stagger the starting positions, to compensate for the outer lanes of the track being longer. American football has the teams switch goals every quarter, to even out the advantages of having the wind at your team's back. Why should swimming be different?
- kqr 1y agoYour examples are about making circumstances equivalent, thus canceling out any advantage. There's no way to e.g. switch lanes in swimming so we're bound to have some contestants advantaged. In cases where some contestants have to be advantaged, the conventional solution in sports is to advantage the ones who performed better according to some metric. I think it's unfair to reward those who were lucky or already advantaged somehow, but my wife who has a background in track and field thinks anything else would be unfair.
- bell-cot 1y ago> ... no way to e.g. switch lanes in swimming so ... Why couldn't you shorten the pool, from a swimmer's PoV, by putting (say) a very shallow plywood box against the wall of the pool at one end of each "non-center" lane? Yes, you might need to do some math & stats to figure out just how shallow a box. Or, you could use a feedback loop - boxes start very shallow, leading swimmers get to pick a lane, boxes adjusted, repeat.
- darepublic 1y agoif there is an advantage to a lane in swimming can't we add a certain small amount of time to compensate
- dclowd9901 1y agoNot that strange. Handicaps are quite common.
- bluedino 1y agoWorks for Mario Kart
- bravesoul2 1y agoJust thinking if it's done F1 style it is fair. It's fresh at each competition. If it's based on past times that creates possibly a feedback loop but depends on details. E.g. can a swimmer use a non competition record towards their qualification.