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Putting this out in the world doesn’t help.

by mulmen 1y ago

longfingers 1y ago
I think the political spectrum is dangerous because people expect the Paradox of Tolerance and similar correlations to silence the left in places where the right will happily speak.
jfengel 1y ago
There is only one thing that might help: making it clear that this is going to keep happening. There are a lot of people who could help, but haven't in the past. If a small fraction of them realize that this is a problem that they can help fix with very little effort, then maybe it might get better. Having said that, here's the really unhelpful part: I don't think this will work, either. I believe that the overwhelming majority of people vote the same every time, including choosing not to vote. The only thing that changes is a microscopic minority, and they choose randomly. I believe that if we re-ran the 2024 election again right now, the result would be identical. I point that out only to say the my original comment is me being optimistic. I actually think it's even worse.
- mulmen 1y ago
  Yeah see you’re just putting negativity into the world. I come here for intellectual curiosity. I want to hear new ideas. You’re not saying anything new. You’re leaving the social media equivalent of dog turds on the sidewalk. Please be a better neighbor.
  - scarface_74 1y ago
    So do you suggest we all just engage in “thoughts and prayers” and thar will help change people?
    - mulmen 1y ago
      I suggest you contribute new ideas and otherwise refrain from adding fuel to the fire of negativity.
      - scarface_74 1y ago
        So exactly what new ideas do you suggest that will make MAGA love minorities, immigrants, non straight people, and stop believing that a magical being in the sky is not going to bring hellfire and damnation down because “the gays are allowed to married”
      - const_cast 1y ago
        Bad things are naturally negative. People died, and that sucks and has actively made the world a worse place. We must approach this with truth and realism.

Putting this out in the world doesn’t help.

by mulmen 1y ago

Putting this out in the world doesn’t help.

I think the political spectrum is dangerous because people expect the Paradox of Tolerance and similar correlations to silence the left in places where the right will happily speak.

jfengel 1y ago

There is only one thing that might help: making it clear that this is going to keep happening. There are a lot of people who could help, but haven't in the past. If a small fraction of them realize that this is a problem that they can help fix with very little effort, then maybe it might get better. Having said that, here's the really unhelpful part: I don't think this will work, either. I believe that the overwhelming majority of people vote the same every time, including choosing not to vote. The only thing that changes is a microscopic minority, and they choose randomly. I believe that if we re-ran the 2024 election again right now, the result would be identical. I point that out only to say the my original comment is me being optimistic. I actually think it's even worse.

mulmen 1y ago
Yeah see you’re just putting negativity into the world. I come here for intellectual curiosity. I want to hear new ideas. You’re not saying anything new. You’re leaving the social media equivalent of dog turds on the sidewalk. Please be a better neighbor.
- scarface_74 1y ago
  So do you suggest we all just engage in “thoughts and prayers” and thar will help change people?
  - mulmen 1y ago
    I suggest you contribute new ideas and otherwise refrain from adding fuel to the fire of negativity.
    - scarface_74 1y ago
      So exactly what new ideas do you suggest that will make MAGA love minorities, immigrants, non straight people, and stop believing that a magical being in the sky is not going to bring hellfire and damnation down because “the gays are allowed to married”
    - const_cast 1y ago
      Bad things are naturally negative. People died, and that sucks and has actively made the world a worse place. We must approach this with truth and realism.