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Can you give me an idea of how much interaction would be $50-$100 per day? Like are you pretty constantly in a back and forth with CC? And if you wouldn’t mind,

Can you give me an idea of how much interaction would be $50-$100 per day? Like are you pretty constantly in a back and forth with CC? And if you wouldn’t mind, any chance you can give me an idea of productivity gains pre/post LLM?

mekpro 1y ago
you can easily reach 50$ per day. by force switching model to opus /model opus it will continue to use opus eventhough there is a warning about approaching limit. i found opus is significantly more capable in coding than sonnet, especcially for the task that is poorly defined, thinking mode can fulfill alot of missing detail and you just need to edit a little before let it code.
- upcoming-sesame 1y ago
  wow. haven't tried Opus but Sonnet 4 is already damn good.
resonious 1y ago
Re productivity gains, CC allows me to code during my commute time. Even on a crowded bus/train I can get real work done just with my phone.
- dwohnitmok 1y ago
  How do you use Claude Code via your phone?
  - manmal 1y ago
    vibetunnel.sh perhaps
  - macrolime 1y ago
    Personally I use dev containers on a server and I have written some template containers for quickly setting up new containers that has claude code and some scripts for easily connecting to the right container etc. Makes it possible to work on mobile,but lots of room for improvement in the workflow still.
- brendoelfrendo 1y ago
  Unless you're getting paid for your commute, you're just giving your employer free productivity. I would recommend doing literally anything else with that time. Read a book, maybe.
  - positr0n 1y ago
    Everywhere I've worked as a programmer you're just paid to do your job. If you get some of it done on your commute what difference does it make?
    - epolanski 1y ago
      If you can't do your job in your 8 hours then you're either not good enough or the requirements are too much and the company should change processes and hire.
      - positr0n 1y ago
        Right, I'm not saying anyone should actually be in the office 40 hours a week that sounds terrible. And even with all the RTO of the last couple years that doesn't seem to be expected many places.
  - resonious 1y ago
    It's for a paid side gig.
- ReaLNero 1y ago
  What's your workflow if I may ask? I've been interested in the idea as well.
  - resonious 1y ago
    The project is just a web backend. I give Claude Code grunt work tasks. Things like "make X operation also return Y data" or "create Z new model + CRUD operations". Also asking it to implement well-known patterns like denouncing or caching for an existing operation works well. My app builds and runs fine on Termux, so my CLAUDE.md says to always run unit tests after making changes. So I punch in a request, close my phone for a bit, then check back later and review the diff. Usually takes one or two follow-up asks to get right, but since it always builds and passes tests, I never get complete garbage back. There are some tasks that I never give it. Most of that is just intuition. Anything I need to understand deeply or care about the implementation of I do myself. And the app was originally hand-built by me, which I think is important - I would not trust CC to design the entire thing from scratch. It's much easier to review changes when you understand the overall architecture deeply.
e1g 1y ago
Yes, a lot of usage, I’d guess top 10% among my peers. I do 6-10hrs of constant iterating across mid-size codebases of 750k tokens. CC is set to use Opus by default, which further drives up costs. Estimating productivity gains is a flame war I don’t want to start, but as a signal: if the CC Max plan goes up 10x in price, I’m still keeping my subscription. I maintain top-tier subscription to every frontier service (~$1k/mo) and throughout the week spend multiple hours with each of Cursor, Amp, Augment, Windsurf, Codex CLI, Gemini CLI, but keep on defaulting to Claude Code.
- jonstewart 1y ago
  I am curious what kind of development you’re doing and where your projects fall on the fast iteration<->correctness curve (no judgment). I’ve used CC Pro for a few weeks now and I will keep it, it’s fantastically useful for some things, but it has wasted more of my time than it saved when I’ve experimented with giving it harder tasks.
  - brailsafe 1y ago
    It's interesting to work with a number of people using various models and interaction modes in slightly different capacities. I can see where the huge productivity gains are and can feel them, but the same is true for the opposite. I'm pretty sure I lost a full day or more trying to track down a build error because it was relatively trivial fpr someone to ask CC or something to refactor a ton of files, which it seems to have done a bit too eagerly. On the other hand, that refactor would have been super tedious, so maybe worth it?
- mark_l_watson 1y ago
  Mostly to save money (I am retired) I mostly use Gemini APIs. I used to also use good open weight models on groq.com, but life is simpler just using Gemini. Ultimately, my not using the best tools for my personal research projects has zero effect on the world but I am still very curious what elite developers with the best tools can accomplish, and what capability I am ‘leaving on the table.’
- foolishgame 1y ago

mekpro 1y ago

you can easily reach 50$ per day. by force switching model to opus /model opus it will continue to use opus eventhough there is a warning about approaching limit. i found opus is significantly more capable in coding than sonnet, especcially for the task that is poorly defined, thinking mode can fulfill alot of missing detail and you just need to edit a little before let it code.

upcoming-sesame 1y ago
wow. haven't tried Opus but Sonnet 4 is already damn good.

resonious 1y ago

Re productivity gains, CC allows me to code during my commute time. Even on a crowded bus/train I can get real work done just with my phone.

dwohnitmok 1y ago
How do you use Claude Code via your phone?
- manmal 1y ago
  vibetunnel.sh perhaps
- macrolime 1y ago
  Personally I use dev containers on a server and I have written some template containers for quickly setting up new containers that has claude code and some scripts for easily connecting to the right container etc. Makes it possible to work on mobile,but lots of room for improvement in the workflow still.
brendoelfrendo 1y ago
Unless you're getting paid for your commute, you're just giving your employer free productivity. I would recommend doing literally anything else with that time. Read a book, maybe.
- positr0n 1y ago
  Everywhere I've worked as a programmer you're just paid to do your job. If you get some of it done on your commute what difference does it make?
  - epolanski 1y ago
    If you can't do your job in your 8 hours then you're either not good enough or the requirements are too much and the company should change processes and hire.
    - positr0n 1y ago
      Right, I'm not saying anyone should actually be in the office 40 hours a week that sounds terrible. And even with all the RTO of the last couple years that doesn't seem to be expected many places.
- resonious 1y ago
  It's for a paid side gig.
ReaLNero 1y ago
What's your workflow if I may ask? I've been interested in the idea as well.
- resonious 1y ago
  The project is just a web backend. I give Claude Code grunt work tasks. Things like "make X operation also return Y data" or "create Z new model + CRUD operations". Also asking it to implement well-known patterns like denouncing or caching for an existing operation works well. My app builds and runs fine on Termux, so my CLAUDE.md says to always run unit tests after making changes. So I punch in a request, close my phone for a bit, then check back later and review the diff. Usually takes one or two follow-up asks to get right, but since it always builds and passes tests, I never get complete garbage back. There are some tasks that I never give it. Most of that is just intuition. Anything I need to understand deeply or care about the implementation of I do myself. And the app was originally hand-built by me, which I think is important - I would not trust CC to design the entire thing from scratch. It's much easier to review changes when you understand the overall architecture deeply.

e1g 1y ago

Yes, a lot of usage, I’d guess top 10% among my peers. I do 6-10hrs of constant iterating across mid-size codebases of 750k tokens. CC is set to use Opus by default, which further drives up costs. Estimating productivity gains is a flame war I don’t want to start, but as a signal: if the CC Max plan goes up 10x in price, I’m still keeping my subscription. I maintain top-tier subscription to every frontier service (~$1k/mo) and throughout the week spend multiple hours with each of Cursor, Amp, Augment, Windsurf, Codex CLI, Gemini CLI, but keep on defaulting to Claude Code.

jonstewart 1y ago
I am curious what kind of development you’re doing and where your projects fall on the fast iteration<->correctness curve (no judgment). I’ve used CC Pro for a few weeks now and I will keep it, it’s fantastically useful for some things, but it has wasted more of my time than it saved when I’ve experimented with giving it harder tasks.
- brailsafe 1y ago
  It's interesting to work with a number of people using various models and interaction modes in slightly different capacities. I can see where the huge productivity gains are and can feel them, but the same is true for the opposite. I'm pretty sure I lost a full day or more trying to track down a build error because it was relatively trivial fpr someone to ask CC or something to refactor a ton of files, which it seems to have done a bit too eagerly. On the other hand, that refactor would have been super tedious, so maybe worth it?
mark_l_watson 1y ago
Mostly to save money (I am retired) I mostly use Gemini APIs. I used to also use good open weight models on groq.com, but life is simpler just using Gemini. Ultimately, my not using the best tools for my personal research projects has zero effect on the world but I am still very curious what elite developers with the best tools can accomplish, and what capability I am ‘leaving on the table.’
foolishgame 1y ago