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There wouldn't be any evidence that these groups, specifically AA have embedded themselves into the government and law system of the united states in particular

There wouldn't be any evidence that these groups, specifically AA have embedded themselves into the government and law system of the united states in particular and have used their influence to force non-religious people to join their little cult meetings, right? It's all optional of course! Anyway, here's a list of court cases/news articles where it wasn't: https://www.courthousenews.com/atheist-fights-court-ordered-alcoholics-anonymous-treatment/ https://www.courthousenews.com/atheist-fights-court-ordered-... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/08/alcoholics-anonymous-canada-religion-secular-groups-aa https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/08/alcoholics-ano... https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/1995/jul/15/aa-probation-requirement-illegal-for-atheist/ https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/1995/jul/15/aa-probatio... https://aaagnostica.org/2014/10/17/atheist-punished-for-rejecting-12-step-program-gets-2-million/ https://aaagnostica.org/2014/10/17/atheist-punished-for-reje... I'm sure you can find 20 more easily. Glad i'm not american.

genewitch 1y ago
you really got an axe to grind, huh?
stronglikedan 1y ago
> specifically AA have embedded themselves into the government and law system of the united states in particular You could literally say the same about any special interest group in any country. > Glad i'm not american. Me too, but the difference is that you don't see me thinking I know anything about UK politics or special interest groups. I'd even wager that you've never even set foot in a meeting in an attempt to alleviate your naivety.
- IlikeKitties 1y ago
  > I'd even wager that you've never even set foot in a meeting in an attempt to alleviate your naivety. I don't need to join a meeting to criticize what the organization setting up that meetings is widely publicizing as a treatment for a medical condition (addiction) when what they publicize is obvious religious nonsense. I also don't join spirit healing conventions for cancer patients or homeopathic sales events to criticize those.

genewitch 1y ago

you really got an axe to grind, huh?

stronglikedan 1y ago

> specifically AA have embedded themselves into the government and law system of the united states in particular You could literally say the same about any special interest group in any country. > Glad i'm not american. Me too, but the difference is that you don't see me thinking I know anything about UK politics or special interest groups. I'd even wager that you've never even set foot in a meeting in an attempt to alleviate your naivety.

IlikeKitties 1y ago
> I'd even wager that you've never even set foot in a meeting in an attempt to alleviate your naivety. I don't need to join a meeting to criticize what the organization setting up that meetings is widely publicizing as a treatment for a medical condition (addiction) when what they publicize is obvious religious nonsense. I also don't join spirit healing conventions for cancer patients or homeopathic sales events to criticize those.