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'Gun control has never been about guns anyway, it has always been about a society that thinks killing people is an acceptable way to settle disputes.' Eh? I t

'Gun control has never been about guns anyway, it has always been about a society that thinks killing people is an acceptable way to settle disputes.' Eh? I thought it was always about people misusing and people being afraid of big, scary, long range killing machines.

ChuckMcM 14y ago
Just think about it. Lets say that everyone in your society was convinced the best way to settle a disagreement with you was to have a walk off [1], do you think you would worry that someone owned or was carrying a gun? Looking at the NRA surveys of gun owners, #1 reason for owning hand guns is 'self defense'. If you're not going to be attacked that reason goes away. [1] Yes that is a Zoolander reference.
- sukuriant 14y ago
  While I am not a member of the NRA; I had always perceived the 'self defense' side of gun ownership as twofold: 1) in the event that someone else has a gun and is assaulting you with one; either that, or your in a situation where the assailant is substantially stronger than you and isn't stopping (or is attacking someone you love). For example, a mountain lion or bear. and more importantly, 2) a detourant. * "I'm not going to steal from that guy, because he's packing and I like living." * "It would be unwise for me to attack that car dealership, because one of the patrons might shoot me." * "Opening fire in this mall would be a generally bad idea, considering one in four people in it have a glock on their hip."
  - ChuckMcM 14y ago
    In #1 its really about people not wildlife. Either folks don't think they will be attacked by wildlife or they feel like wildlife won't attack them without 'cause' and since they don't feel compelled to give cause they don't worry about it. And of course if your society didn't think attacking people was a reasonable course of action then #1 goes away. And as a deterrent the your three examples all presume a human out to do harm. Back to my ideological, if unrealistic, observational comment. Does that help get my point?
    - Zak 14y ago
      I grew up in rural Alaska. I routinely carried firearms for protection from wildlife from a fairly young age.

ChuckMcM 14y ago

Just think about it. Lets say that everyone in your society was convinced the best way to settle a disagreement with you was to have a walk off [1], do you think you would worry that someone owned or was carrying a gun? Looking at the NRA surveys of gun owners, #1 reason for owning hand guns is 'self defense'. If you're not going to be attacked that reason goes away. [1] Yes that is a Zoolander reference.

sukuriant 14y ago
While I am not a member of the NRA; I had always perceived the 'self defense' side of gun ownership as twofold: 1) in the event that someone else has a gun and is assaulting you with one; either that, or your in a situation where the assailant is substantially stronger than you and isn't stopping (or is attacking someone you love). For example, a mountain lion or bear. and more importantly, 2) a detourant. * "I'm not going to steal from that guy, because he's packing and I like living." * "It would be unwise for me to attack that car dealership, because one of the patrons might shoot me." * "Opening fire in this mall would be a generally bad idea, considering one in four people in it have a glock on their hip."
- ChuckMcM 14y ago
  In #1 its really about people not wildlife. Either folks don't think they will be attacked by wildlife or they feel like wildlife won't attack them without 'cause' and since they don't feel compelled to give cause they don't worry about it. And of course if your society didn't think attacking people was a reasonable course of action then #1 goes away. And as a deterrent the your three examples all presume a human out to do harm. Back to my ideological, if unrealistic, observational comment. Does that help get my point?
  - Zak 14y ago
    I grew up in rural Alaska. I routinely carried firearms for protection from wildlife from a fairly young age.