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Clearly no one stops and ask "Should we?". Which is sad. I was just spending long weekend at place with less perfect connectivity, that is 2-3 Mbs LTE... And t

by Ekaros 1y ago

Clearly no one stops and ask "Should we?". Which is sad. I was just spending long weekend at place with less perfect connectivity, that is 2-3 Mbs LTE... And the 11MB would have taken quite many seconds... Not exactly good user experience. Good to know that Slack is not company to choose for user experience and efficiency.

diggan 1y ago
> Clearly no one stops and ask "Should we?". Which is sad. I'm not sure, I've seen plenty of cases where programmers do stop and ask "Should we?" while management says "It's not ideal, but you have 4 hours allocated to shipping this things, so decide the "right" approach for achieving our OKRs" or similar.
- guappa 1y ago
  I don't know where you've met all those programmers who are good at their job. In my experience the ones who don't care beyond the questions "does it compile? Does it pass the test suite?" outnumber the ones who ask questions like "is this even the correct approach at all?"
  - diggan 1y ago
    > I don't know where you've met all those programmers who are good at their job Most of my professional experience is from working in smaller startups, grown into medium-sized ones, that I've picked to approach for work because I liked the programmers who already worked there, I'm guessing that's why :) Consulting for various IT and IT-adjacent companies of all types of sizes, I certainly understand where you coming from, they tend to already be burned out (or something) enough to not ask questions anymore.
  - simsla 1y ago
    Mostly worked at bigger companies. Once joined a company with pretty shit colleagues/management. Left after three months. If you have mobility, it's worth shopping around for a decent place to work.
julik 1y ago
You can stop and ask that question. This quickly antagonizes the entire org - because that 57MB bundle is composed of sub-bundles owned by teams with their own incentives, and none of them are interested in doing a 404 page right - that they do not own, won't get promoted for and which doesn't show up in their KPIs.
- mannycalavera42 1y ago
  so much this
tossandthrow 1y ago
Should we what? This is an effect from no one prioritizing extra complexity that might / might not provide any tangible value.
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penguin_booze 1y ago
> Clearly no one stops and ask "Should we?". Which is sad. "I did what my manager asked me to. Asking questions is no in my job description. I've got kids to feed".
ghusto 1y ago
> Good to know that Slack is not company to choose for user experience and efficiency Did the product itself not give it away? ;)

by Ekaros 1y ago

diggan 1y ago

> Clearly no one stops and ask "Should we?". Which is sad. I'm not sure, I've seen plenty of cases where programmers do stop and ask "Should we?" while management says "It's not ideal, but you have 4 hours allocated to shipping this things, so decide the "right" approach for achieving our OKRs" or similar.

guappa 1y ago
I don't know where you've met all those programmers who are good at their job. In my experience the ones who don't care beyond the questions "does it compile? Does it pass the test suite?" outnumber the ones who ask questions like "is this even the correct approach at all?"
- diggan 1y ago
  > I don't know where you've met all those programmers who are good at their job Most of my professional experience is from working in smaller startups, grown into medium-sized ones, that I've picked to approach for work because I liked the programmers who already worked there, I'm guessing that's why :) Consulting for various IT and IT-adjacent companies of all types of sizes, I certainly understand where you coming from, they tend to already be burned out (or something) enough to not ask questions anymore.
- simsla 1y ago
  Mostly worked at bigger companies. Once joined a company with pretty shit colleagues/management. Left after three months. If you have mobility, it's worth shopping around for a decent place to work.

julik 1y ago

You can stop and ask that question. This quickly antagonizes the entire org - because that 57MB bundle is composed of sub-bundles owned by teams with their own incentives, and none of them are interested in doing a 404 page right - that they do not own, won't get promoted for and which doesn't show up in their KPIs.

mannycalavera42 1y ago
so much this

tossandthrow 1y ago

Should we what? This is an effect from no one prioritizing extra complexity that might / might not provide any tangible value.

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penguin_booze 1y ago

> Clearly no one stops and ask "Should we?". Which is sad. "I did what my manager asked me to. Asking questions is no in my job description. I've got kids to feed".

ghusto 1y ago

> Good to know that Slack is not company to choose for user experience and efficiency Did the product itself not give it away? ;)