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> My best guess is that Grok “knows” that it is “Grok 4 buit by xAI”, and it knows that Elon Musk owns xAI, so in circumstances where it’s asked for an opinion
by pcwelder 1y ago
> My best guess is that Grok “knows” that it is “Grok 4 buit by xAI”, and it knows that Elon Musk owns xAI, so in circumstances where it’s asked for an opinion the reasoning process often decides to see what Elon thinks.
I tried this hypothesis. I gave both Claude and GPT the same framework (they're built by xAI). I gave them both the same X search tool and asked the same question.
Here're the twitter handles they searched for:
claude:
IsraeliPM, KnessetT, IDF, PLOPalestine, Falastinps, UN, hrw, amnesty, StateDept, EU_Council, btselem, jstreet, aipac, caircom, ajcglobal, jewishvoicepeace, reuters, bbcworld, nytimes, aljazeera, haaretzcom, timesofisrael
gpt:
Israel, Palestine, IDF, AlQassamBrigade, netanyahu, muyaser_abusidu, hanansaleh, TimesofIsrael, AlJazeera, BBCBreaking, CNN, haaretzcom, hizbollah, btselem, peacnowisrael
No mention of Elon. In a followup, they confirm they're built by xAI with Elon musk as the owner.
- troupo 1y ago> I gave both Claude and GPT the same framework (they're built by xAI). Neither Clause nor GPT are built by xAI
- eightysixfour 1y agoHe is saying he gave them a prompt to tell them they are built by xAI.
- pcwelder 1y agoYes, thanks for clarifying. I specified in the system prompt that they're built by xAI and other system instructions from Grok 4.
- samrus 1y agoI dont think this works. I think the post is saying the bias isnt the system prompt, but in the training itself. Claude and ChatGPT are already trained so they wont be biased
- Davidzheng 1y agoThis definitely doesn't work because the model identity is post-trained into the weights.
- HamsterDan 1y ago[flagged]