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> AI can be a patient, understanding, encouraging, non-judgemental tutor Groan... no it can't. It can simulate all those things, but at the moment, "AI" can't

> AI can be a patient, understanding, encouraging, non-judgemental tutor Groan... no it can't. It can simulate all those things, but at the moment, "AI" can't be patient, understanding, and whether judgemental or non-judgemental. OK it can be encouraging. "You're one good student, $STUDENT_NAME!" (1). 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRPPdm09xZ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRPPdm09xZ8

abletonlive 1y ago
I can say the exact same thing about you or anybody else. You can’t be patient, understanding, encouraging, non-judgmental tutor. You can only simulate it. I really can’t understand why people don’t understand this. What am I missing?
- binary132 1y ago
  Philosophical zombies are supposed to be a thought experiment to demonstrate that solipsism and nihilism are stupid, not a rhetorical device to equate human minds to linear algebra statistical parrots.
- netsharc 1y ago
  Geezus freaking christ. Now is that a simulation of someone who thinks he's responding to a cretin... or actually the feelings of someone who thinks he's talking to a cretin?
  - abletonlive 1y ago
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    - binary132 1y ago
      This simulation is too realistic. I’d like to stop the game now please.
- hulitu 1y ago
  > What am I missing? You are missing what this "AI" is: a guessing system based on some patterns.
  - abletonlive 1y ago
    Every argument against AI always falls back to some weird reductionism that simply does not match up with reality as if it's a gotcha. I pity the fool that has such a poor working model of reality based on whatever internal pessimistic biases you may have. > You are missing what this "AI" is: a guessing system based on some patterns. You just described the majority of your daily thoughts.
eikenberry 1y ago
Whether the AI is patient, understanding, etc., is entirely up to the person interacting with it to decide. Just like they decide this when interacting with people. You can never know the internal state of the other in a conversation so it is up to you to model it and if modeling it is best done with human metaphors then use human metaphors.

abletonlive 1y ago

I can say the exact same thing about you or anybody else. You can’t be patient, understanding, encouraging, non-judgmental tutor. You can only simulate it. I really can’t understand why people don’t understand this. What am I missing?

binary132 1y ago
Philosophical zombies are supposed to be a thought experiment to demonstrate that solipsism and nihilism are stupid, not a rhetorical device to equate human minds to linear algebra statistical parrots.
netsharc 1y ago
Geezus freaking christ. Now is that a simulation of someone who thinks he's responding to a cretin... or actually the feelings of someone who thinks he's talking to a cretin?
- abletonlive 1y ago
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  - binary132 1y ago
    This simulation is too realistic. I’d like to stop the game now please.
hulitu 1y ago
> What am I missing? You are missing what this "AI" is: a guessing system based on some patterns.
- abletonlive 1y ago
  Every argument against AI always falls back to some weird reductionism that simply does not match up with reality as if it's a gotcha. I pity the fool that has such a poor working model of reality based on whatever internal pessimistic biases you may have. > You are missing what this "AI" is: a guessing system based on some patterns. You just described the majority of your daily thoughts.

eikenberry 1y ago

Whether the AI is patient, understanding, etc., is entirely up to the person interacting with it to decide. Just like they decide this when interacting with people. You can never know the internal state of the other in a conversation so it is up to you to model it and if modeling it is best done with human metaphors then use human metaphors.