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I think the youth's parents should be reeling them in, not the government or third parties at the expense of everyone else's freedom.

by ronsor 1y ago

snarf_br 1y ago
I think we're ten years beyond that point now.
63 1y ago
Ideally, sure. In practice, that hasn't worked well. I was a youth fairly recently and I can assure you my mother lacked the knowledge to meaningfully enforce any content restrictions on my devices short of physically going through my phone. Incognito windows and deleting texts isn't exactly out of reach for children.
- notaustinpowers 1y ago
  Why does that make that everyone else’s problem?
  - 63 1y ago
    What I'm hearing is "I would rather let millions of kids get victimized than allow even the remote possibility of being held accountable for what I say on the internet." In my mind it's all of our problems that children are getting groomed and manipulated online and the downside is minimal here. Like the worst case scenario is we have to assume people know who we are when we tweet... which doesn't even sound like a downside to me.
ImPleadThe5th 1y ago
The issue is that the internet is too ubiquitous. It'd be like trying to stop teenagers from smoking cigarettes when there are cigarette trees all over the place. While I agree parents need to do better, somethings become so big they are a societal problem. Simply saying "We need better parenting" unfortunately won't fix the state we're in. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe the government should be reeling in the social media and advertising companies. But I would trust Facebook's Age verification system less than one created by the EU for example with our NFC enabled IDs. All I know is that Mass Social Media has been poison to young people, and I don't really see a way to put that cat back in the bag. What would you suggest? How do you "fix" parenting? Or do you not think that there is a problem at all with the interent for the youth today?

I think the youth's parents should be reeling them in, not the government or third parties at the expense of everyone else's freedom.

by ronsor 1y ago

I think the youth's parents should be reeling them in, not the government or third parties at the expense of everyone else's freedom.

snarf_br 1y ago

I think we're ten years beyond that point now.

63 1y ago

Ideally, sure. In practice, that hasn't worked well. I was a youth fairly recently and I can assure you my mother lacked the knowledge to meaningfully enforce any content restrictions on my devices short of physically going through my phone. Incognito windows and deleting texts isn't exactly out of reach for children.

notaustinpowers 1y ago
Why does that make that everyone else’s problem?
- 63 1y ago
  What I'm hearing is "I would rather let millions of kids get victimized than allow even the remote possibility of being held accountable for what I say on the internet." In my mind it's all of our problems that children are getting groomed and manipulated online and the downside is minimal here. Like the worst case scenario is we have to assume people know who we are when we tweet... which doesn't even sound like a downside to me.

ImPleadThe5th 1y ago

The issue is that the internet is too ubiquitous. It'd be like trying to stop teenagers from smoking cigarettes when there are cigarette trees all over the place. While I agree parents need to do better, somethings become so big they are a societal problem. Simply saying "We need better parenting" unfortunately won't fix the state we're in. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe the government should be reeling in the social media and advertising companies. But I would trust Facebook's Age verification system less than one created by the EU for example with our NFC enabled IDs. All I know is that Mass Social Media has been poison to young people, and I don't really see a way to put that cat back in the bag. What would you suggest? How do you "fix" parenting? Or do you not think that there is a problem at all with the interent for the youth today?