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Caregiving is an amazing opportunity. It is life-changing for the person receiving the care. It is fulfilling and soul-affirming for the person delivering the c

Caregiving is an amazing opportunity. It is life-changing for the person receiving the care. It is fulfilling and soul-affirming for the person delivering the care.

dns_snek 1y ago
If people agreed with your view that it's an "amazing opportunity" then nursing homes wouldn't be catastrophically understaffed. Of course that doesn't take away from anyone's enjoyment of that line of work, it is truly important, but it's not something that the vast majority of people see as an "amazing opportunity".
- ethbr1 1y ago
  Nursing homes are understaffed because they're for-profit entities looking for $15/hr labor.
  - scarecrowbob 1y ago
    This. Caring for people is great. Being in poverty while doing almost anything sucks.
    - burnt-resistor 1y ago
      America is great at underpaying and overworking almost everyone for almost everything. America is really only good if you're a decamillionaire or better. In general, it tends (YMMV) better to be in Europe for poorer/average folks who get much more value and protections while paying more taxes.
  - dns_snek 1y ago
    Um yes, precisely. They're not good opportunities for people to make a living. Did you reply to the wrong person or just stating the obvious?
    - ethbr1 1y ago
      The person you replied to said >> Caregiving is an amazing opportunity. It is life-changing for the person receiving the care. It is fulfilling and soul-affirming for the person delivering the care. That the market doesn't pay well for the work is immaterial to its value. If you're agreeing to everything they said, and only disagreeing that it pays well: yes.
      - dns_snek 1y ago
        You're changing the subject, the point of contention was whether it's "an amazing opportunity", not whether the work is valuable.
        ethbr1 1y ago
        You’re defining opportunity in strictly monetary terms?
        dns_snek 1y ago
        Yes? That's what makes something a broadly recognized "good opportunity" in our current economic system that you can base public policy around. Everything else is just variable personal preference. People don't leave their home countries and entire lives behind because they're looking for the "opportunity" of nursing a foreigner for a pittance. They do it because they want to make good money and provide for their families.
  - burnt-resistor 1y ago
    Around 20% of US elder care facilities will close around 2027 because of the Medicaid cuts that pay for long term care of many to pay for the tax cuts for the rich. It was cynically set to take effect after the midterm elections so people wouldn't realize what was happening.

Caregiving is an amazing opportunity. It is life-changing for the person receiving the care. It is fulfilling and soul-affirming for the person delivering the care.

dns_snek 1y ago

If people agreed with your view that it's an "amazing opportunity" then nursing homes wouldn't be catastrophically understaffed. Of course that doesn't take away from anyone's enjoyment of that line of work, it is truly important, but it's not something that the vast majority of people see as an "amazing opportunity".

ethbr1 1y ago
Nursing homes are understaffed because they're for-profit entities looking for $15/hr labor.
- scarecrowbob 1y ago
  This. Caring for people is great. Being in poverty while doing almost anything sucks.
  - burnt-resistor 1y ago
    America is great at underpaying and overworking almost everyone for almost everything. America is really only good if you're a decamillionaire or better. In general, it tends (YMMV) better to be in Europe for poorer/average folks who get much more value and protections while paying more taxes.
- dns_snek 1y ago
  Um yes, precisely. They're not good opportunities for people to make a living. Did you reply to the wrong person or just stating the obvious?
  - ethbr1 1y ago
    The person you replied to said >> Caregiving is an amazing opportunity. It is life-changing for the person receiving the care. It is fulfilling and soul-affirming for the person delivering the care. That the market doesn't pay well for the work is immaterial to its value. If you're agreeing to everything they said, and only disagreeing that it pays well: yes.
    - dns_snek 1y ago
      You're changing the subject, the point of contention was whether it's "an amazing opportunity", not whether the work is valuable.
      - ethbr1 1y ago
        You’re defining opportunity in strictly monetary terms?
        dns_snek 1y ago
        Yes? That's what makes something a broadly recognized "good opportunity" in our current economic system that you can base public policy around. Everything else is just variable personal preference. People don't leave their home countries and entire lives behind because they're looking for the "opportunity" of nursing a foreigner for a pittance. They do it because they want to make good money and provide for their families.
- burnt-resistor 1y ago
  Around 20% of US elder care facilities will close around 2027 because of the Medicaid cuts that pay for long term care of many to pay for the tax cuts for the rich. It was cynically set to take effect after the midterm elections so people wouldn't realize what was happening.