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>Just not the kind of people that those in power want. farm owners don't give a fuck what color the cattle is. >You bring in families from around the world a
by 123yawaworht456 1y ago
>Just not the kind of people that those in power want.
farm owners don't give a fuck what color the cattle is.
>You bring in families from around the world
and if/when they integrate into the host society, their children will have as few children as the natives
>give them amazing opportunities, then hire them to take care of the elderly
yeah, sure. changing adult diapers. such an amazing opportunity
>This is why immigration is so important to the economy of a developed nation.
exploiting the resources of the undeveloped nations is bread and butter of the developed nations, yeah.
cui bono? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh2Vh-G3vEk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh2Vh-G3vEk
- foxyv 1y ago"yeah, sure. changing adult diapers. such an amazing opportunity" Nursing and elder care is a field that anyone can respect. Why do you spit on their contribution to society?
- 123yawaworht456 1y agoI don't spit at the people who do those jobs, I spit at the people who think those jobs are 'amazing opportunities'.
- dirtmerchant 1y agoCaregiving is an amazing opportunity. It is life-changing for the person receiving the care. It is fulfilling and soul-affirming for the person delivering the care.
- dns_snek 1y agoIf people agreed with your view that it's an "amazing opportunity" then nursing homes wouldn't be catastrophically understaffed. Of course that doesn't take away from anyone's enjoyment of that line of work, it is truly important, but it's not something that the vast majority of people see as an "amazing opportunity".
- ethbr1 1y agoNursing homes are understaffed because they're for-profit entities looking for $15/hr labor.
- scarecrowbob 1y agoThis. Caring for people is great. Being in poverty while doing almost anything sucks.
- burnt-resistor 1y agoAmerica is great at underpaying and overworking almost everyone for almost everything. America is really only good if you're a decamillionaire or better. In general, it tends (YMMV) better to be in Europe for poorer/average folks who get much more value and protections while paying more taxes.
- dns_snek 1y agoUm yes, precisely. They're not good opportunities for people to make a living. Did you reply to the wrong person or just stating the obvious?
- ethbr1 1y agoThe person you replied to said >> Caregiving is an amazing opportunity. It is life-changing for the person receiving the care. It is fulfilling and soul-affirming for the person delivering the care. That the market doesn't pay well for the work is immaterial to its value. If you're agreeing to everything they said, and only disagreeing that it pays well: yes.
- dns_snek 1y agoYou're changing the subject, the point of contention was whether it's "an amazing opportunity", not whether the work is valuable.
- jfengel 1y agoFor the people in countries that still have a high birth rate, they usually are amazing opportunities. Wealthy countries are a lot richer than poor ones, and people will take jobs we scorn. Unfortunately, we also scorn the people who would want to do them. We set very low immigration limits, and we pay the people who do those jobs (even native ones) very poorly. So these jobs are simultaneously "amazing opportunities" and "abusive".
- red-iron-pine 1y agoif it's so respectable why aren't you doing it? "kids these days don't want to work!" -- then why aren't you showing them how?
- scarecrowbob 1y agoI literally can't afford to do that.
- xracy 1y agoI think the difference between what you're complaining about the person saying, and what the person is actually saying could be solved by workers getting paid like $5/hour more (AKA a living wage). The person didn't say anything that contradicts what they're saying other than that you're unhappy with the status quo that is offered to migrant workers. And you're absolutely right. But a more constructive dialogue would be "let's improve the conditions for those people."
- singleshot_ 1y agoI know that I reply to a post written by someone who refuses to capitalize at my own risk, but > yeah, sure. changing adult diapers. such an amazing opportunity You seem to have inadvertently discounted the experiences of people like my dad’s African-born eye doc, who came to this county for the opportunity of medical training which he now uses to make injections into my elderly dad’s eyes every few months. (Either that or you’re an idiot).
- singleshot_ 1y agoActually, I read some of your other posts and I think I figured it out.