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Insane how HN cheers on piracy nowadays, all because it helps them train their LLMs
by snickerdoodle12 1y ago
Insane how HN cheers on piracy nowadays, all because it helps them train their LLMs
- artninja1988 1y agoI only see comments complaining about imaginary property "violations" on ai threads funnily enough.
- hombre_fatal 1y agoThis isn’t about training LLMs at all. Also, HN like the rest of the world was always pro-piracy and getting the fruits of your labor without paying for it. The only time I’ve seen anti-piracy comments has been been wrt LLM training. Suddenly people pretend to care but it feels performative.
- GuinansEyebrows 1y agoi wonder if you're considering the huge difference between: - individuals pirating copies of things for sole consumption or relatively-miniscule distribution; and - large highly-funded institutions that pirate content for the sole purpose of generating revenue from it ...and why that might lead people to feel differently about one and the other (not to mention the outsized punitive response to the former compared to the latter).
- MisterTea 1y agoInformation wants to be free.
- CamperBob2 1y agoThe evolution of intelligence and its intersection with universal access to knowledge is more important than copyright. To the extent copyright interests want to pick a fight with AI, they must lose, and decisively so.
- hollerith 1y agoLots of things are more important than the evolution of intelligence. This blind faith in technological progress is becoming grossly incompatible with the interests of ordinary people.
- CamperBob2 1y agoTBH, I'm not super impressed with "ordinary people" lately. Most of the time, I don't spare "ordinary people" a thought. Lately, I have, though. The thought is primarily something along the lines of, "How can these people be stopped before they hose us all?"
- hollerith 1y agoThe only sector of our society that needs to be stopped before they hose us all is the AI labs IMHO.
- GuinansEyebrows 1y agomaybe not the only... but they're certainly nontrivial in that distinction
- hollerith 1y agoMy "only" is an exaggeration, but the AI labs are definitely the societal force I'm most worried about. If they were closed down or some talented person figures out how to control AIs (so they stay controlled even if the become more capable than us) I'd be fairly optimistic about humanity's future.
- CamperBob2 1y agoYes, if only you were in charge, things would be... different.
- slim 1y agoIMHO the whole annas archive is a false flag op by a major AI startup
- xboxnolifes 1y agoI don't think HN was ever much against piracy. At least not personal use piracy.