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I'm confused. You double clicked an application icon, and the application opened? You seem to be conflating the popular hate for focus being stolen due to some

I'm confused. You double clicked an application icon, and the application opened? You seem to be conflating the popular hate for focus being stolen due to some non-consensual event, and the consensual starting of an app. If GIMP didn't have a splash screen, there'd be no indication it was loading at all (and it's one big fat app.. several generations of code including a huge chunk of Python loaded at boot).

reitzensteinm 14y ago
Splash screens are fine, splash screens that are set to always on top are not. Important distinction.
- protolif 14y ago
  The toolbox window is also set to 'always on top'. It's not a huge deal, compared to the x11 version though. I just open another virtual desktop for it in Lion.
DigitalJack 14y ago
The icon bounces when an app is starting in osx. I am sure there are probably a couple, but normally Mac apps do not do splash screens.
wtallis 14y ago
OS X app icons bounce in the dock while the app is loading. If it takes a really long time, a splash screen is ok, but a splash screen that sticks around for a full minute and thwarts every attempt to raise a window above it is just insulting.
- protolif 14y ago
  I agree that they should change this, but I don't find it offensive, because I know that the GIMP project has been around since it was acceptable to get a cup of coffee while your app loads. I'm just saying, that they've got a lot of legacy code. I'm just happy that it works, for now.
adgar 14y ago
It sounds like your parent poster is saying it shows the splash screen over all applications and there's nothing you can do about it. Which is needlessly inconsiderate.
- acidblue 14y ago
  Actually the modal behavior is pervasive in this application which is very irritating. Hopefully the GIMP devs can fix this. I opened the app on my 13" MBP and the tools all persisted to take foreground. Meaning, all other applications stayed below the GIMP. I can't use it like this. Oh well. But, I a looking forward to it being fixed.
- kstenerud 14y ago
  acidblue, your account has been hellbanned since 149 days ago: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3790146 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3790146
  - acidblue 14y ago
    Huh. I did not know that. I've never understood why I had that -20 karma stuff. I'm no troll and I read probably about 20% of the articles posted here. I'm addicted to Hacker News. No wonder I've been unable to participate in anything. That just sort of ruined my day, actually. Is there nothing I can do, other than set up another account? I just don't know why I would have been banned.
  - ChuckMcM 14y ago
    Do: email pg if you're hellbanned. Do: Be civil and respond politely. Don't: create a throwaway account and whine about being hellbanned. Don't: create a new account without talking to pg first. Don't: take it personally.
    - tripzilch 14y ago
      Is that from the guidelines? The whole point of hellbanning is that the affected user doesn't know they're hellbanned (HN appears to them as if they aren't). So they can't do nr.1 unless someone tells them. This is a great article that explains very clearly why hellbanning is in 99.5% of the cases the absolute wrong choice as it's being used on HN: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/06/suspension-ban-or-hellban.html http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/06/suspension-ban-or-h... In addition, the guidelines can say "don't take it personally" all they want, but when someone wastes my time for 150 days when there are so many perfectly reasonable ways of solving the problem in common usage on successful discussion forums all over the web, yeah I would probably be a little bit miffed, myself. It's one of the main reasons I keep an eye on my karma score, if it sometimes doesn't go up for a few days, I get nervous and check if I can still see my own comments via a proxy. It's absolutely ridiculous that I have to do it that way, but I've seen people get hellbanned for such petty things that yes, I really couldn't say I never will be one of "those people" that catch the wrong mod's attention at the wrong time before their coffee hit.

reitzensteinm 14y ago

Splash screens are fine, splash screens that are set to always on top are not. Important distinction.

protolif 14y ago
The toolbox window is also set to 'always on top'. It's not a huge deal, compared to the x11 version though. I just open another virtual desktop for it in Lion.

DigitalJack 14y ago

The icon bounces when an app is starting in osx. I am sure there are probably a couple, but normally Mac apps do not do splash screens.

wtallis 14y ago

OS X app icons bounce in the dock while the app is loading. If it takes a really long time, a splash screen is ok, but a splash screen that sticks around for a full minute and thwarts every attempt to raise a window above it is just insulting.

protolif 14y ago
I agree that they should change this, but I don't find it offensive, because I know that the GIMP project has been around since it was acceptable to get a cup of coffee while your app loads. I'm just saying, that they've got a lot of legacy code. I'm just happy that it works, for now.

adgar 14y ago

It sounds like your parent poster is saying it shows the splash screen over all applications and there's nothing you can do about it. Which is needlessly inconsiderate.

acidblue 14y ago
Actually the modal behavior is pervasive in this application which is very irritating. Hopefully the GIMP devs can fix this. I opened the app on my 13" MBP and the tools all persisted to take foreground. Meaning, all other applications stayed below the GIMP. I can't use it like this. Oh well. But, I a looking forward to it being fixed.
kstenerud 14y ago
acidblue, your account has been hellbanned since 149 days ago: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3790146 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3790146
- acidblue 14y ago
  Huh. I did not know that. I've never understood why I had that -20 karma stuff. I'm no troll and I read probably about 20% of the articles posted here. I'm addicted to Hacker News. No wonder I've been unable to participate in anything. That just sort of ruined my day, actually. Is there nothing I can do, other than set up another account? I just don't know why I would have been banned.
- ChuckMcM 14y ago
  Do: email pg if you're hellbanned. Do: Be civil and respond politely. Don't: create a throwaway account and whine about being hellbanned. Don't: create a new account without talking to pg first. Don't: take it personally.
  - tripzilch 14y ago
    Is that from the guidelines? The whole point of hellbanning is that the affected user doesn't know they're hellbanned (HN appears to them as if they aren't). So they can't do nr.1 unless someone tells them. This is a great article that explains very clearly why hellbanning is in 99.5% of the cases the absolute wrong choice as it's being used on HN: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/06/suspension-ban-or-hellban.html http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/06/suspension-ban-or-h... In addition, the guidelines can say "don't take it personally" all they want, but when someone wastes my time for 150 days when there are so many perfectly reasonable ways of solving the problem in common usage on successful discussion forums all over the web, yeah I would probably be a little bit miffed, myself. It's one of the main reasons I keep an eye on my karma score, if it sometimes doesn't go up for a few days, I get nervous and check if I can still see my own comments via a proxy. It's absolutely ridiculous that I have to do it that way, but I've seen people get hellbanned for such petty things that yes, I really couldn't say I never will be one of "those people" that catch the wrong mod's attention at the wrong time before their coffee hit.