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Both sides aren't the same. The right is much better at propaganda.

by goatlover 1y ago

burnt-resistor 1y ago
The right is better at propaganda, collaboration, distribution, advertising, investing, fundraising, outreach, and monetization. Thom Hartmann laments regularly that FreeSpeechTV is a close to a progressive network as there is. Meanwhile, he alleges a conservative media owner offered him multiple millions to change his tune in exchange for distribution, support, and marketing. Yes, he also took advantage of the RT America network while it existed to gain visibility but he maintains he was never censored or told to read "must-air" Kremlin propaganda copy.
- krapp 1y ago
  I think it's more accurate that the right is better aligned with the interests of capital, and capitalists control all of those things and have the levers of government biased in their favor. The left has always had to fight an uphill battle politically and culturally and financially, which is why they've been at their most successful when working outside of system versus trying to work within it.
  - burnt-resistor 1y ago
    No, there is no "the left" uniform hivemind but there are many factions. The neoliberal spectrum is very much aligned with capital to where they almost mirror Republicans; that was Clinton's original sin. The Abundance neo-neoliberals are the latest incarnation of them. The progressive spectrum rarely wants to cooperate or coordinate and is often too preciously-pure rather than pragmatic to learn about business to succeed. Dragging the Overton Window back left won't magically happen with Che Guevara T-shirts, People's Front of Judea vs. the Judean People's Front, or pure ideals "too perfect" to be tainted by making a venture out of it.
PeterStuer 1y ago
Isn't this a contradictory statement, as 'better' propaganda would entail you don't perceive it as propaganda?

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Both sides aren't the same. The right is much better at propaganda.

by goatlover 1y ago

Both sides aren't the same. The right is much better at propaganda.

burnt-resistor 1y ago
The right is better at propaganda, collaboration, distribution, advertising, investing, fundraising, outreach, and monetization. Thom Hartmann laments regularly that FreeSpeechTV is a close to a progressive network as there is. Meanwhile, he alleges a conservative media owner offered him multiple millions to change his tune in exchange for distribution, support, and marketing. Yes, he also took advantage of the RT America network while it existed to gain visibility but he maintains he was never censored or told to read "must-air" Kremlin propaganda copy.
- krapp 1y ago
  I think it's more accurate that the right is better aligned with the interests of capital, and capitalists control all of those things and have the levers of government biased in their favor. The left has always had to fight an uphill battle politically and culturally and financially, which is why they've been at their most successful when working outside of system versus trying to work within it.
  - burnt-resistor 1y ago
    No, there is no "the left" uniform hivemind but there are many factions. The neoliberal spectrum is very much aligned with capital to where they almost mirror Republicans; that was Clinton's original sin. The Abundance neo-neoliberals are the latest incarnation of them. The progressive spectrum rarely wants to cooperate or coordinate and is often too preciously-pure rather than pragmatic to learn about business to succeed. Dragging the Overton Window back left won't magically happen with Che Guevara T-shirts, People's Front of Judea vs. the Judean People's Front, or pure ideals "too perfect" to be tainted by making a venture out of it.
PeterStuer 1y ago
Isn't this a contradictory statement, as 'better' propaganda would entail you don't perceive it as propaganda?