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Left leaning author is of the opinion that left-leaning stories tend to have far better sourcing than right-leaning ones, and are less politically polarized. Ne

Left leaning author is of the opinion that left-leaning stories tend to have far better sourcing than right-leaning ones, and are less politically polarized. News at 11.

goatlover 1y ago
Both sides aren't the same. The right is much better at propaganda.
- burnt-resistor 1y ago
  The right is better at propaganda, collaboration, distribution, advertising, investing, fundraising, outreach, and monetization. Thom Hartmann laments regularly that FreeSpeechTV is a close to a progressive network as there is. Meanwhile, he alleges a conservative media owner offered him multiple millions to change his tune in exchange for distribution, support, and marketing. Yes, he also took advantage of the RT America network while it existed to gain visibility but he maintains he was never censored or told to read "must-air" Kremlin propaganda copy.
  - krapp 1y ago
    I think it's more accurate that the right is better aligned with the interests of capital, and capitalists control all of those things and have the levers of government biased in their favor. The left has always had to fight an uphill battle politically and culturally and financially, which is why they've been at their most successful when working outside of system versus trying to work within it.
    - burnt-resistor 1y ago
      No, there is no "the left" uniform hivemind but there are many factions. The neoliberal spectrum is very much aligned with capital to where they almost mirror Republicans; that was Clinton's original sin. The Abundance neo-neoliberals are the latest incarnation of them. The progressive spectrum rarely wants to cooperate or coordinate and is often too preciously-pure rather than pragmatic to learn about business to succeed. Dragging the Overton Window back left won't magically happen with Che Guevara T-shirts, People's Front of Judea vs. the Judean People's Front, or pure ideals "too perfect" to be tainted by making a venture out of it.
- PeterStuer 1y ago
  Isn't this a contradictory statement, as 'better' propaganda would entail you don't perceive it as propaganda?
wnc3141 1y ago
I think right leaning (in a traditional definition) sort of undersells the current right wing media/political sphere. Its difficult to evaluate the credibility of a movement that is fundamentally, albeit inconsistently anti-institution, anti-intellectual/ anti-education, and believes that coercion is a valid path for the homogenization of a national culture. Credible news isn't left leaning as much as it is the leftovers of anyone who doesn't belong to a group that is fundamentally disinterested in an objective view. Credible news is only left leaning to the extent that anyone who doesn't fall into the far right wing spectrum is left leaning. Sort of a false dichotomy.
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- krapp 1y ago
  They're anti-institution because they think institutions have been corrupted by the left - they trust their own institutions. Intellectualism has been corrupted by leftism/communism/feminism/secularism what have you, but they have their own intellectuals. Education is indoctrinating the youth with degenerate ideology and communist propaganda, but they trust schools that hew to their narrative. "Coercion being a valid path for the homogenization of a national culture" is soft selling some very obvious and common right-wing historical policies. IMHO This particular iteration of the right differs from tradition in its self-awareness and chaotic nature, but not in its essential core ideals. It just suffers from the same post-COVID post social media brain rot as everyone else. As far as credibility goes, I think they're as credible as they've ever been. How credible that is is left as an exercise to the reader.

Left leaning author is of the opinion that left-leaning stories tend to have far better sourcing than right-leaning ones, and are less politically polarized. News at 11.

goatlover 1y ago

Both sides aren't the same. The right is much better at propaganda.

burnt-resistor 1y ago
The right is better at propaganda, collaboration, distribution, advertising, investing, fundraising, outreach, and monetization. Thom Hartmann laments regularly that FreeSpeechTV is a close to a progressive network as there is. Meanwhile, he alleges a conservative media owner offered him multiple millions to change his tune in exchange for distribution, support, and marketing. Yes, he also took advantage of the RT America network while it existed to gain visibility but he maintains he was never censored or told to read "must-air" Kremlin propaganda copy.
- krapp 1y ago
  I think it's more accurate that the right is better aligned with the interests of capital, and capitalists control all of those things and have the levers of government biased in their favor. The left has always had to fight an uphill battle politically and culturally and financially, which is why they've been at their most successful when working outside of system versus trying to work within it.
  - burnt-resistor 1y ago
    No, there is no "the left" uniform hivemind but there are many factions. The neoliberal spectrum is very much aligned with capital to where they almost mirror Republicans; that was Clinton's original sin. The Abundance neo-neoliberals are the latest incarnation of them. The progressive spectrum rarely wants to cooperate or coordinate and is often too preciously-pure rather than pragmatic to learn about business to succeed. Dragging the Overton Window back left won't magically happen with Che Guevara T-shirts, People's Front of Judea vs. the Judean People's Front, or pure ideals "too perfect" to be tainted by making a venture out of it.
PeterStuer 1y ago
Isn't this a contradictory statement, as 'better' propaganda would entail you don't perceive it as propaganda?

wnc3141 1y ago

I think right leaning (in a traditional definition) sort of undersells the current right wing media/political sphere. Its difficult to evaluate the credibility of a movement that is fundamentally, albeit inconsistently anti-institution, anti-intellectual/ anti-education, and believes that coercion is a valid path for the homogenization of a national culture. Credible news isn't left leaning as much as it is the leftovers of anyone who doesn't belong to a group that is fundamentally disinterested in an objective view. Credible news is only left leaning to the extent that anyone who doesn't fall into the far right wing spectrum is left leaning. Sort of a false dichotomy.

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krapp 1y ago
They're anti-institution because they think institutions have been corrupted by the left - they trust their own institutions. Intellectualism has been corrupted by leftism/communism/feminism/secularism what have you, but they have their own intellectuals. Education is indoctrinating the youth with degenerate ideology and communist propaganda, but they trust schools that hew to their narrative. "Coercion being a valid path for the homogenization of a national culture" is soft selling some very obvious and common right-wing historical policies. IMHO This particular iteration of the right differs from tradition in its self-awareness and chaotic nature, but not in its essential core ideals. It just suffers from the same post-COVID post social media brain rot as everyone else. As far as credibility goes, I think they're as credible as they've ever been. How credible that is is left as an exercise to the reader.