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Well, only a lunatic would use ZIP with anything but DEFLATE/DEFLATE64
by dikei 1y ago
Well, only a lunatic would use ZIP with anything but DEFLATE/DEFLATE64
- redeeman 1y agothere are A LOT of zip files using lzma in the wild. also, how about people learn to use updated software? should newer video compression technologies not be allowed in mkv/mp4. if you cant open it, well.. then stop using 90ies winzip
- 1over137 1y ago>how about people learn to use updated software? How about software developers learn to keep software working on old OSes and old hardware?
- tiagod 1y agoWhat stops you from running updated zip/unzip on an old OS or on old hardware?
- krapht 1y agoNothing, but what stops you from using DEFLATE64? Installing new software has a real time and hassle cost, and how much time are you actually saving over the long run? It depends on your usage patterns.
- RealStickman_ 1y agoSupporting old APIs and additional legacy ways of doing things has a real cost in maintenance.
- mananaysiempre 1y agoSo does not supporting them, but the developer gets to externalize those.
- redeeman 1y agothe developer is hired by someone that gets to make that decision. Ultimately the customer does. Thats why some people spend extreme resources on legacy crap, because someone has deemed it worth it.
- redeeman 1y agowhat stops you from installing win95 and winzip?
- redeeman 1y agowhat software doesnt support OSs that are in active SECURITY support?
- philipwhiuk 1y agohttps://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/windows-95-98-and-other-decrepit-versions-can-grab-online-updates-again/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/windows-95-98-and-ot...
- redeeman 1y ago"Retro-computing fans can download the final updates released for '90s-era OSes." Right, and when were these "final updates" made? are you suggesting 95, 98 still sees ACTIVE security support?
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 1y agomkv or mp4 with h264 and aac is good enough. mp3 is good enough. jpeg is good enough. zip with deflate is also good enough.
- e4m2 1y ago"Good enough" is not good enough.
- redeeman 1y agoh264 is not good enough for many things
- homebrewer 1y agoIn the middle of San Francisco, with Silicon Valley level incomes, very possible. In the real world I still exchange files with users on rustic ADSL, where every megabyte counts. Many areas out there, in rural Mongolia or in the middle of Africa that's just got access to the internet, are even worse in that regard.
- dahrkael 1y agoI started using winrar because winzip wouldnt fit in a floppy disk. so even in the 90s zip wasnt good enough
- landl0rd 1y agoNo. You can't get people to use updated software. You can't get a number of people to update past windows 7. This has been and will likely remain a persistent issue, and it's sure not one you're going to fix. All it will do is limit your ability to work with people. This isn't a hill on which you should die.
- redeeman 1y agoif they want to open certain files, they will update
- landl0rd 1y agoNo, they're just not going to work with you.
- TkTech 1y agoYep. Half the world's finances still spin on CSVs and FTP (no, not SFTP, FTP) If your customers request a format, that's the format you're using.
- nick238 1y agoAnd if they don't request a format (or if you ask, and the response is "what's a format"), you need to use one that's 99.99% supported.
- redeeman 1y agoim okay with that. That being said, I have not had a single issue delivering zip files with lzma, and i KNOW that I have gotten MANY from the random sources. I would also expect people to be able to decode h265 in an mp4 file. Your proposal seems, to word it bluntly, retarded. You would have mp4 frozen for h264 for ETERNITY, and then invent a new format as replacement? or you would just say "god has bestowed upon the world h264, and it shall be the LAST CODEC EVER!". get with the program. Things change, you cannot expect to be forwards compatible for ever. Sometimes people have to switch to newer versions of software.