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Not that many people care about zstd; I would assume most 7-zip users care about the convenience of the gui.

by rf15 1y ago

jorvi 1y ago
.. but 7-zip has a pretty terrible GUI? Hence why PeaZip is so popular, and J-Zip used to be before it was stuffed with adware.
- general1726 1y ago
  Most people won't use that GUI, but will right click file or folder -> 7-Zip -> Add To ... and it will spit out a file without questions. Granted Windows 11 has started doing the same for its zip and 7zip compressors. Same trick goes for opening archives or executables (Installers) as archives.
  - axus 1y ago
    Let's chat about Windows 11 right-click menu. I'm pretty sure they hid all the application menu extensions to avoid worst-case performance issues.
    - p_ing 1y ago
      Exactly it. 3rd parties injecting their extensions harmed performance, which people turn around and blame Microsoft for.
      - birksherty 1y ago
        People are really praising microsoft for for all three new "features" and tracking in win 11.
- m-schuetz 1y ago
  All the GUI I need is right click-> extract here or to folder. And 7zip is doing that nicely.
- Gormo 1y ago
  > .. but 7-zip has a pretty terrible GUI? Since you're asking, the answer is no. 7-Zip has an efficient and elegant UI.
- Jackson__ 1y ago
  PeaZip is popular? It seems a lot less tested than 7zip; Last time I tried to use it, it failed to unpack an archive because the password had a quote character or something like that. Never had such crazy issues in 7zip myself.
- delfinom 1y ago
  I would never trust PeaZip. The author updates code in the github repo....by drag and drop file uploads. https://github.com/peazip/PeaZip/commits/sources/ https://github.com/peazip/PeaZip/commits/sources/
- sidewndr46 1y ago
  If you're expecting a "mobile first" or similar GUI where most of the screen is dedicated to whitespace, basic features involves 7 or more mouse clicks and for some reason it all gets changed every ~6 months then yes the 7zip GUI is terrible. Desktop software usability peaked sometime in the late 90s, early 2000s. There's a reason why 7zip still looks like ~2004
  - wmil 1y ago
    When compared to it's contemporaries the 7-zip GUI is noticeably worse. Back in 2004 WinRar and WinZip were both clearly superior.
    - birksherty 1y ago
      Not sure what those gui improvments in winrar is. I prefer 7zip over all those for gui too.
  - jorvi 1y ago
    You could have taken the 10 seconds to type in "PeaZip GUI" and seen that it is not a mobile interface and it is indeed much nicer than the 7-Zip interface. Instead you chose to make a useless snarky comment. Be better.
- tssva 1y ago
  I find the PeaZip gui to be awful to use. I much prefer the 7-zip gui.
yapyap 1y ago
if by gui u mean the ability to right click a .zip file and unzip it just through the little window that pops up ur totally right. At least that + the unzipping progress bar is what I appreciate 7zip for
Beretta_Vexee 1y ago
I just hope that the recipient will be able to open the file without too much difficulty. I am willing to sacrifice a few megabytes if necessary.
arp242 1y ago
It's been a long time since I used Windows, but back in the day I used 7-Zip exactly because it could open more or less $anything. That's also why we installed it on many customer computers. On Linux bsdtar/libarchive gives a similar experience: "tar xf file" works on most things.
- devilbunny 1y ago
  7-Zip is like VLC: maybe not the best, but it’s free (speech and beer) and handles almost anything you throw at it. For personal use, I don’t care much about efficient compression either computationally or in terms of storage; I just want “tar, but won’t make a 700 MB blank ISO9660 image take 700 MB”.
- tssva 1y ago
  Windows 11 has shipped with bsdtar/libarchive for a few years. The gui shell support for archive files was recently changed to use libarchive which has increased the supported archive files which can be opened in the shell.
quickthrowman 1y ago
I use the right click context menu to run 7zip, why would you open a GUI?
- quietbritishjim 1y ago
  That is a GUI!
KronisLV 1y ago
That's basically me! I really like 7-Zip because it opens most archive formats I have to work with and also the .7z format has pretty good compression for the stuff I want to store longer term.
snickerdoodle12 1y ago
That's why 7zip should support it. People care about the convenience of the GUI and we all benefit from better compression being accessible with a nice GUI.
cm2187 1y ago
in fact this is the first time I even hear about it, and I am semi-IT litterate. The prevalence of a compression standard is about how ubiquitous it is. For that one, I would vote "not even on the radar yet".

Not that many people care about zstd; I would assume most 7-zip users care about the convenience of the gui.

by rf15 1y ago

Not that many people care about zstd; I would assume most 7-zip users care about the convenience of the gui.

.. but 7-zip has a pretty terrible GUI? Hence why PeaZip is so popular, and J-Zip used to be before it was stuffed with adware.

general1726 1y ago
Most people won't use that GUI, but will right click file or folder -> 7-Zip -> Add To ... and it will spit out a file without questions. Granted Windows 11 has started doing the same for its zip and 7zip compressors. Same trick goes for opening archives or executables (Installers) as archives.
- axus 1y ago
  Let's chat about Windows 11 right-click menu. I'm pretty sure they hid all the application menu extensions to avoid worst-case performance issues.
  - p_ing 1y ago
    Exactly it. 3rd parties injecting their extensions harmed performance, which people turn around and blame Microsoft for.
    - birksherty 1y ago
      People are really praising microsoft for for all three new "features" and tracking in win 11.
m-schuetz 1y ago
All the GUI I need is right click-> extract here or to folder. And 7zip is doing that nicely.
Gormo 1y ago
> .. but 7-zip has a pretty terrible GUI? Since you're asking, the answer is no. 7-Zip has an efficient and elegant UI.
Jackson__ 1y ago
PeaZip is popular? It seems a lot less tested than 7zip; Last time I tried to use it, it failed to unpack an archive because the password had a quote character or something like that. Never had such crazy issues in 7zip myself.
delfinom 1y ago
I would never trust PeaZip. The author updates code in the github repo....by drag and drop file uploads. https://github.com/peazip/PeaZip/commits/sources/ https://github.com/peazip/PeaZip/commits/sources/
sidewndr46 1y ago
If you're expecting a "mobile first" or similar GUI where most of the screen is dedicated to whitespace, basic features involves 7 or more mouse clicks and for some reason it all gets changed every ~6 months then yes the 7zip GUI is terrible. Desktop software usability peaked sometime in the late 90s, early 2000s. There's a reason why 7zip still looks like ~2004
- wmil 1y ago
  When compared to it's contemporaries the 7-zip GUI is noticeably worse. Back in 2004 WinRar and WinZip were both clearly superior.
  - birksherty 1y ago
    Not sure what those gui improvments in winrar is. I prefer 7zip over all those for gui too.
- jorvi 1y ago
  You could have taken the 10 seconds to type in "PeaZip GUI" and seen that it is not a mobile interface and it is indeed much nicer than the 7-Zip interface. Instead you chose to make a useless snarky comment. Be better.
tssva 1y ago
I find the PeaZip gui to be awful to use. I much prefer the 7-zip gui.

yapyap 1y ago

if by gui u mean the ability to right click a .zip file and unzip it just through the little window that pops up ur totally right. At least that + the unzipping progress bar is what I appreciate 7zip for

Beretta_Vexee 1y ago

I just hope that the recipient will be able to open the file without too much difficulty. I am willing to sacrifice a few megabytes if necessary.

arp242 1y ago

It's been a long time since I used Windows, but back in the day I used 7-Zip exactly because it could open more or less $anything. That's also why we installed it on many customer computers. On Linux bsdtar/libarchive gives a similar experience: "tar xf file" works on most things.

devilbunny 1y ago
7-Zip is like VLC: maybe not the best, but it’s free (speech and beer) and handles almost anything you throw at it. For personal use, I don’t care much about efficient compression either computationally or in terms of storage; I just want “tar, but won’t make a 700 MB blank ISO9660 image take 700 MB”.
tssva 1y ago
Windows 11 has shipped with bsdtar/libarchive for a few years. The gui shell support for archive files was recently changed to use libarchive which has increased the supported archive files which can be opened in the shell.

quickthrowman 1y ago

I use the right click context menu to run 7zip, why would you open a GUI?

quietbritishjim 1y ago
That is a GUI!

KronisLV 1y ago

That's basically me! I really like 7-Zip because it opens most archive formats I have to work with and also the .7z format has pretty good compression for the stuff I want to store longer term.

snickerdoodle12 1y ago

That's why 7zip should support it. People care about the convenience of the GUI and we all benefit from better compression being accessible with a nice GUI.

cm2187 1y ago

in fact this is the first time I even hear about it, and I am semi-IT litterate. The prevalence of a compression standard is about how ubiquitous it is. For that one, I would vote "not even on the radar yet".