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It's the same with anything negative related to Musk, DOGE, etc. Examples below. And you can't just blame people flagging the stories - people ask for them to
by mandmandam 1y ago
It's the same with anything negative related to Musk, DOGE, etc. Examples below.
And you can't just blame people flagging the stories - people ask for them to be whitelisted and are gaslit in response. No surprise, maybe, when Garry Tan and PG are writing fluffy tweets about Musk and the DOGE team.
Examples:
"Musk’s DOGE Goons Surreptitiously Transmitted Reams of White House Data" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44258556 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44258556
(Is it new that flagged stories don't link where they used to?)
"Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44142790 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44142790
"Tornado warnings delayed because of DOGE cuts" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44018247 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44018247
"Elon Musk's Doge Moves to Gut Local Libraries While No One Is Looking" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43445571 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43445571
"Doge Claimed It Saved $8B in One Contract. It Was $8M" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43101757 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43101757 (eventually unflagged).
"EFF Sues DOGE and the Office of Personnel Management" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43020091 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43020091 (unflagged after hours)
"Elon Musk's rapid unscheduled disassembly of the US government" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43007319 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43007319
... And so on.
I started keeping a list of falsely flagged stories that I noticed in my favorites recently, and it has grown quite large. Everything Musk is a dominant theme.
We're not even allowed to discuss this censorship outside of comments: "Ask HN: What's with flagging articles criticizing Musk?" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42907426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42907426 (There are many other examples of this, and it is explicitly HN policy not to permit discussing the flagging policies here, ie, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43058574 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43058574.)
Yet prolific commenters here will still praise HN for having such little censorship - it's pretty disturbing.
- jonnycomputer 1y agoYes; this shouldn't have been flagged. 1. Major tech company 2. Major failure of a tech product 3. A public relations disaster for AI Of course this is a legitimate topic for discussion. Flagging it is bullshit.
- ujkhsjkdhf234 1y agoAll topics that negatively talk about Trump or Elon get flagged. I'll let you come to a conclusion as to why.
- ytpete 1y agoI think it's totally reasonable to flag posts about politics that don't connect to tech much (including non-tech stories about Elon/DOGE). But then there are submissions like this one that are clearly tech-related: prominent AI alignment issues have to be topical here on HN. Or this one I recently submitted which was at the time new breaking revelations about the TikTok ban: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44461158 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44461158. Also directly tech-related. And both posts have 100+ upvotes while still remaining flagged. It's definitely frustrating.
- const_cast 1y agoWhen technocrats become cornerstones of American democracy I think the "well it's political" arguments sort of dissolve. Yes, it is political, but it's also technical. Technology, both historically and presently, has been used for just about every political goal. What is War but not a demonstration of technology?