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Ah yeah, because Nazis were big on importing millions of Indian workers. What views of him are actually close to Nazis? Dude loves jews even

archagon 1y ago
For someone who's totally not a Nazi, he sure keeps doing Nazi-adjacent things, such as calling people on government benefits part of the "parasite class" and supporting the AfD. The fact that nobody is actually shocked by Grok's new behavior should be telling.
- arandomusername 1y ago
  Yeah Nazis were against social welfare, but calling him a nazi because of that is a stretch. supporting afd does not make him a nazi, nor is afd a nazi party. Elon supports Netanyahu and Israel, a jewish state. Elon is not a socialist, nor a nationalist. Elon is more free speech (not perfect) while Nazis are big on censorship. He is opposite to Nazi idealogy in most cases, specially the most important parts
  - ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
    Elon is only a fan of free speech for certain topics and certainly not for anyone critical of himself. https://observer.com/2022/12/elon-musk-suspend-twitter-account-list/ https://observer.com/2022/12/elon-musk-suspend-twitter-accou...
    - arandomusername 1y ago
      Political accounts Ye (formerly Kanye West) (@kanyewest), rapper Yup, Elon is truly a nazi. I did say it's not perfect. but out of all mainstream social media platforms, twitter is the least censored
      - root_axis 1y ago
        It is the most censored. It's also the only social media site where the owner personally bans and suppresses people and and posts he doesn't like. We also know that since the Elon take over, compliance with government takedowns has sharply increased.
        arandomusername 1y ago
        Every major social media is complying with government takedowns. None of them are operating illegally. Saying twitter is the most censored is completely delusional. "Controversial" (e.g alex jones, nick fuentes) people can't even make an account on other social media sites
        root_axis 1y ago
        > Saying twitter is the most censored is completely delusional It's simply the facts. Elon allows people like Nick Fuentes and Alex Jones on the site because they share a political agenda. Twitter is the only social media site where e.g. links to competitor platforms are suppressed while the owner of the site artificially boosts his own posts above those that are more popular. Twitter is the most cutting edge censorship platform.
        arandomusername 1y ago
        What political agenda does he share with Nick Fuentes? They are complete opposites. Links to competitor platforms being suppressed lol. Other social media sites ban you for having viewpoints that do not align with theirs. Who cares about linking to competitor platforms?
        root_axis 1y ago
        > What political agenda does he share with Nick Fuentes? They are complete opposites They don't agree on everything, but it's simply wrong to state they are on opposite sides. They're both far right public figures and extreme Trump supporters that later became critics of the administration. I wouldn't label Elon as a Nazi, but he thinks racism is based just like Fuentes and is generally supportive of Nazi talking points which he is wont to retweet. > Links to competitor platforms being suppressed lol That's literally systematic censorship. The fact that you so flippantly dismiss it says a lot about your intellectual honesty on the topic. > Other social media sites ban you for having viewpoints that do not align with theirs Totally false.
ceejayoz 1y ago
The Nazis loved imported labor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_labour_under_German_rule_during_World_War_II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_labour_under_German_rul... The main obstacle to bringing in Indian workers was the fact that the Brits controlled India and were unlikely to share.
- arandomusername 1y ago
  They worked in camps and did not participate in German society.
  - ceejayoz 1y ago
    That sounds not too far off how I’ve heard H1B holders describe their situation.
    - arandomusername 1y ago
      You might want to refresh your memory on how people in those camps were treated... To say those are similar is actually insane
      - ceejayoz 1y ago
        I really don't know how to explain to you that "imports and employs people for cheap, compliant labor" does not automatically mean "personally likes those people". Reword "Ah yeah, because Nazis were big on importing millions of Indian workers" to "Ah yeah, because Confederates were big on importing millions of African workers" and you'll see the dramatic logical failure in your attempted argument. > Dude loves jews even Thomas Jefferson reportedly loved Sally Hemmings. He still kept her (and his own resulting children!) enslaved. Hell, there were pro-Nazi Jews. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National...
        arandomusername 1y ago

archagon 1y ago

For someone who's totally not a Nazi, he sure keeps doing Nazi-adjacent things, such as calling people on government benefits part of the "parasite class" and supporting the AfD. The fact that nobody is actually shocked by Grok's new behavior should be telling.

arandomusername 1y ago
Yeah Nazis were against social welfare, but calling him a nazi because of that is a stretch. supporting afd does not make him a nazi, nor is afd a nazi party. Elon supports Netanyahu and Israel, a jewish state. Elon is not a socialist, nor a nationalist. Elon is more free speech (not perfect) while Nazis are big on censorship. He is opposite to Nazi idealogy in most cases, specially the most important parts
- ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
  Elon is only a fan of free speech for certain topics and certainly not for anyone critical of himself. https://observer.com/2022/12/elon-musk-suspend-twitter-account-list/ https://observer.com/2022/12/elon-musk-suspend-twitter-accou...
  - arandomusername 1y ago
    Political accounts Ye (formerly Kanye West) (@kanyewest), rapper Yup, Elon is truly a nazi. I did say it's not perfect. but out of all mainstream social media platforms, twitter is the least censored
    - root_axis 1y ago
      It is the most censored. It's also the only social media site where the owner personally bans and suppresses people and and posts he doesn't like. We also know that since the Elon take over, compliance with government takedowns has sharply increased.
      - arandomusername 1y ago
        Every major social media is complying with government takedowns. None of them are operating illegally. Saying twitter is the most censored is completely delusional. "Controversial" (e.g alex jones, nick fuentes) people can't even make an account on other social media sites
        root_axis 1y ago
        > Saying twitter is the most censored is completely delusional It's simply the facts. Elon allows people like Nick Fuentes and Alex Jones on the site because they share a political agenda. Twitter is the only social media site where e.g. links to competitor platforms are suppressed while the owner of the site artificially boosts his own posts above those that are more popular. Twitter is the most cutting edge censorship platform.
        arandomusername 1y ago
        What political agenda does he share with Nick Fuentes? They are complete opposites. Links to competitor platforms being suppressed lol. Other social media sites ban you for having viewpoints that do not align with theirs. Who cares about linking to competitor platforms?
        root_axis 1y ago
        > What political agenda does he share with Nick Fuentes? They are complete opposites They don't agree on everything, but it's simply wrong to state they are on opposite sides. They're both far right public figures and extreme Trump supporters that later became critics of the administration. I wouldn't label Elon as a Nazi, but he thinks racism is based just like Fuentes and is generally supportive of Nazi talking points which he is wont to retweet. > Links to competitor platforms being suppressed lol That's literally systematic censorship. The fact that you so flippantly dismiss it says a lot about your intellectual honesty on the topic. > Other social media sites ban you for having viewpoints that do not align with theirs Totally false.

ceejayoz 1y ago

The Nazis loved imported labor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_labour_under_German_rule_during_World_War_II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_labour_under_German_rul... The main obstacle to bringing in Indian workers was the fact that the Brits controlled India and were unlikely to share.

arandomusername 1y ago
They worked in camps and did not participate in German society.
- ceejayoz 1y ago
  That sounds not too far off how I’ve heard H1B holders describe their situation.
  - arandomusername 1y ago
    You might want to refresh your memory on how people in those camps were treated... To say those are similar is actually insane
    - ceejayoz 1y ago
      I really don't know how to explain to you that "imports and employs people for cheap, compliant labor" does not automatically mean "personally likes those people". Reword "Ah yeah, because Nazis were big on importing millions of Indian workers" to "Ah yeah, because Confederates were big on importing millions of African workers" and you'll see the dramatic logical failure in your attempted argument. > Dude loves jews even Thomas Jefferson reportedly loved Sally Hemmings. He still kept her (and his own resulting children!) enslaved. Hell, there were pro-Nazi Jews. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National...
      - arandomusername 1y ago