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JWZ identified the issue Miguel discusses in this post ten years ago, he even gave it a name: CADT http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt

by luriel 14y ago

JWZ identified the issue Miguel discusses in this post ten years ago, he even gave it a name: CADT http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html Also, part of what killed the Linux desktop was Miguel and his total lack of understanding of the unix philosophy which drove him to create abominations like BONOBO. D-Bus is not much better either. That he fell in love with an iPhone goes to show he didn't fully appreciate the value of open source either. We were just yesterday commenting with some friends in #cat-v how Evolution is one of the worst pieces of software ever created, and Evolution is supposedly considered by Miguel and co to be the epitome of the Linux desktop.

Argorak 14y ago
How does falling in love with an iPhone show that you don't fully appreciate the value of open source? Tell me about any good open source handset that came out before the iPhone. OpenMoko? I mean, you really had to love open source to put up with it. Yes, there is still Android but, given how modified the usual handset is, you can't buy a free and open Android on the market as well. So, where is the problem in using a closed device when "open" just doesn't deliver?
- luriel 14y ago
  There is a big difference between using and loving.
  - Argorak 14y ago
    Which leaves your point unexplained. So, let me reply in an equally enigmatic fashion: There are many reasons for which a thing can be loved.
lttlrck 14y ago
Thanks for the link!
jeremyjh 14y ago
That you can't understand a love affair with the iPhone just means you don't appreciate good design. I'm not a fanboy but I did envy my wife's iPhone for years. I like my Android better today but what choices did you really have when the iPhone came out? It was the only game in town. I was chained to a Blackberry is the only reason I didn't have one.

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JWZ identified the issue Miguel discusses in this post ten years ago, he even gave it a name: CADT http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt

by luriel 14y ago

Argorak 14y ago
How does falling in love with an iPhone show that you don't fully appreciate the value of open source? Tell me about any good open source handset that came out before the iPhone. OpenMoko? I mean, you really had to love open source to put up with it. Yes, there is still Android but, given how modified the usual handset is, you can't buy a free and open Android on the market as well. So, where is the problem in using a closed device when "open" just doesn't deliver?
- luriel 14y ago
  There is a big difference between using and loving.
  - Argorak 14y ago
    Which leaves your point unexplained. So, let me reply in an equally enigmatic fashion: There are many reasons for which a thing can be loved.
lttlrck 14y ago
Thanks for the link!
jeremyjh 14y ago
That you can't understand a love affair with the iPhone just means you don't appreciate good design. I'm not a fanboy but I did envy my wife's iPhone for years. I like my Android better today but what choices did you really have when the iPhone came out? It was the only game in town. I was chained to a Blackberry is the only reason I didn't have one.